That's the pot calling the kettle black. Weren't you the first in the world to complain about Killzones resolution? And then there's 1886. Not forgetting Uncharted 4 dropping to 30fps, all of which you were the first to post about here. Of course, a 900p game on Xbone can look "amazing" though!lestat wrote:Strange how obsessed Sony fans are with resolution. That's all I ever see talked about on game boards now.
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Then you shouldn't have called yourself pixel count lestat
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It's not because I always cared about this shit, Sony fanboys all of a sudden act like resolution is the only thing that matters when their systems in past have always been dodgy when it came to resolution. It's just weird there is so much focus on a resolution(1080p) when even that resolution is not the pinnacle of resolutions and can mean little if what you're rendering still looks blurry/rough due to lack of AF/AA/etc.
There is no hypocrisy when I say a game looks amazing like quantum break when even DF say so themselves that the game produces some amazing visuals, resolution does not make a game look amazing, lighting/texture work/models/level of detail/shaders/physics does. Resolution merely makes these effects/visuals sharper or softer.
This is why I don't understand why Sony fanboys can't praise a games visuals if it isn't running 1080p now, you guys are mental and honestly I bet in blind tests you wouldn't notice if they changed resolutions unless DF pointed it out to people. Sony fans played Killzone for 6 months and didn't even question whether the game was 1080p, they just accepted the marking fact when I noticed straight away that there was something funky going on with the rendering with scanline artefacts.
I just don't get what's changed honestly, if people thought this way 10 years ago, sony would be out of business and sega/MS would be cleaning up. Crazy people.
What's gonna happen when people realise that sony VR games are not 1080p native.
There is no hypocrisy when I say a game looks amazing like quantum break when even DF say so themselves that the game produces some amazing visuals, resolution does not make a game look amazing, lighting/texture work/models/level of detail/shaders/physics does. Resolution merely makes these effects/visuals sharper or softer.
This is why I don't understand why Sony fanboys can't praise a games visuals if it isn't running 1080p now, you guys are mental and honestly I bet in blind tests you wouldn't notice if they changed resolutions unless DF pointed it out to people. Sony fans played Killzone for 6 months and didn't even question whether the game was 1080p, they just accepted the marking fact when I noticed straight away that there was something funky going on with the rendering with scanline artefacts.
I just don't get what's changed honestly, if people thought this way 10 years ago, sony would be out of business and sega/MS would be cleaning up. Crazy people.
What's gonna happen when people realise that sony VR games are not 1080p native.
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Oh and t0mby the best looking game on PS4 is at 900p(The Order). Seriously your logic is utterly flawed, like every other rabid sony tard out there.
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The Order isn't doing anything special like QB in terms of destruction /GI./ dynamic lighting.It's a very linear game that has great looking models/environments, image quality is also top notch, and its PBR use. With that they're able to create some near CG like visuals.
UC4 will destroy it.
What they should've done is let you run QB at any resolution your monitor supports on PC. It's very lazy and thoughtless.
UC4 will destroy it.
What they should've done is let you run QB at any resolution your monitor supports on PC. It's very lazy and thoughtless.
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My logic isn't flawed at all. I'n not the one that complained about The Orders 900p, the 30fps nor the black bars. I like the black bar effect, it's no different to watching a 70mm film on a 16:9 telly. 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Seriously your logic is utterly flawed, like every other rabid sony tard out there.
selfish wrote:Being a massive fanboy and trying to hide it is Lestat's worst bottleneck.
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I don't follow.t0mby wrote:My logic isn't flawed at all. I'n not the one that complained about The Orders 900p, the 30fps nor the black bars. I like the black bar effect, it's no different to watching a 70mm film on a 16:9 telly. 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and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about resolutions not being 1080p, hell even not being 720p last gen so don't tell me my logic is flawed.lestat wrote:Oh and t0mby the best looking game on PS4 is at 900p(The Order). Seriously your logic is utterly flawed, like every other rabid sony tard out there.
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Surprising performance here, AMD wins another DX12 title, I guess their architecture was more forward looking with async compute, due to the physics and deformation I'm guessing QB uses it heavily, probably why PC performance isn't as great as we expected.
True, lots of games that look pretty amazing are also relatively static in lighting, leaning on lots of prebaked elements. QB due to the nature of game couldn't prebake/fake their way, so the realtime GI is a pretty impressive sight to behold, the time deformation effects are unlike anything we've ever seen before.flipswitch wrote:The Order isn't doing anything special like QB in terms of destruction /GI./ dynamic lighting.It's a very linear game that has great looking models/environments, image quality is also top notch, and its PBR use. With that they're able to create some near CG like visuals.
UC4 will destroy it.
What they should've done is let you run QB at any resolution your monitor supports on PC. It's very lazy and thoughtless.
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Looks like 60fps locked is off the cards at any detail level.
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Up to the second act and tbh it is quite easy as far as the fps element goes. Very easy AI on normal play through.
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They do that on purpose to make you buy a new graphics card.
Make the graphics good but make it jerky so you always feel underpowered like in an mmo.
Make the graphics good but make it jerky so you always feel underpowered like in an mmo.
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I read on Gaf that quite a few people found it easy on Normal by the second act and restarted on a higher difficulty and it still wasn't as challenging as some games on Hard difficulties.MiNiStRy wrote:Up to the second act and tbh it is quite easy as far as the fps element goes. Very easy AI on normal play through.
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Well I forgot to pre order digital so took myself to EB and traded Sunset Overdrive in (soon to be free with gold) + price match JB. My chums at EB threw me the steelbook and pre order bonuses for nix. All up $70.30 out of pocket and I can then flip it for an Uncharted 4 pre order or something.
Anyhow very impressed with the game so far, very high production quality and a solid story driven romp is just what I needed to shake off my gaming funk.
It appears to have frames per second and look good from my comfy couch.
Anyhow very impressed with the game so far, very high production quality and a solid story driven romp is just what I needed to shake off my gaming funk.
It appears to have frames per second and look good from my comfy couch.
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The tanker scene and lighting in act 2 is the most amazing thing I've ever seen in a game, mind blown.
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Based on the amount of time I get to play it should be done by Tuesday easily so I can get my dark souls 3 on.t0mby wrote:I read on Gaf that quite a few people found it easy on Normal by the second act and restarted on a higher difficulty and it still wasn't as challenging as some games on Hard difficulties.MiNiStRy wrote:Up to the second act and tbh it is quite easy as far as the fps element goes. Very easy AI on normal play through.
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Another terrible mess of a port for PC gamers. I wonder if this will ever get fixed.
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Bring back black borders.
PC is too weak. The coders were probably too tired fixing all the bugs that they had no time for optimisation. And knowing candy was just going to pirate the game they knew the investment into that might not b worth it for te penny's they'd get from him.
...Or the developers just made it run lik shit on purpose to not impact console release. MS needs to boost One sales of games and having pc compete too much will impact their image in the console space.
PC is too weak. The coders were probably too tired fixing all the bugs that they had no time for optimisation. And knowing candy was just going to pirate the game they knew the investment into that might not b worth it for te penny's they'd get from him.
...Or the developers just made it run lik shit on purpose to not impact console release. MS needs to boost One sales of games and having pc compete too much will impact their image in the console space.
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Came back from holidays and found the PC code in my xbox inbox, installing as I type. Will be interesting to see how it looks and runs on my box.
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Had a quick look before work, took a while to download and install.
Running settings at ultra 1080p the game looks to be running around 40~50 frames, turning the game down to medium really doesn't make much difference in performance. The game does look soft on a PC monitor but the quality of filtering and effects on PC are of course higher quality than xbone.
Cross platform saves is awesome, picked up exactly where I left off on bone. I saw remedy came out and said they're working on a PC patch to fix the odd fps cap and improve performance, but they flat out said that the rendering resolution won't change and no SLI support, it's just how the engine works.
Running settings at ultra 1080p the game looks to be running around 40~50 frames, turning the game down to medium really doesn't make much difference in performance. The game does look soft on a PC monitor but the quality of filtering and effects on PC are of course higher quality than xbone.
Cross platform saves is awesome, picked up exactly where I left off on bone. I saw remedy came out and said they're working on a PC patch to fix the odd fps cap and improve performance, but they flat out said that the rendering resolution won't change and no SLI support, it's just how the engine works.
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patch is out for PC, fixes a lot, downloading now, 27GB patch. Yikes.
60 frames per second possible on a 60Hz monitor
30fps cap works properly
High Image quality
Universal Windows Platform fixed
Data streaming fixed
Major enhancements
quit button added
Crashing mitigated
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So with the new patch you can hit 60fps now, but it's not a locked 60fps, it does dip here at there but it runs and feels a lot better than before. I noticed in the graphic settings there is an upscale setting now, this appears to disable the subhd msaa rendering and forces the game to render at full native res. With upscaling toggled off it definitely looks sharper but the performance takes a massive dive, like sub 30fps at 1080p.
Great patch, lots of future proofing in this update for better cards down the line.
Great patch, lots of future proofing in this update for better cards down the line.
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A few more patches later and this game is pretty awesome on PC now, the framerate for me is locked 60fps on a mix of high settings. The other thing I noticed is the upscaling and ghosting have been improved, you no longer see very obvious trails on moving objects, it's a lot more faint/cleaner, the image reconstruction looks better so the image isn't as soft. Just needed more time in the oven i guess.
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Yet another game vastly better on PC.
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Only took 3 months!
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