Rumour about playstation 4.5

[flipswitch]

In ps4's case they should have stuck it out until 2018. 4K won't be mainstream for a number of more years, in the meantime stick to 1080p. PSVR can still run on ps4, they just have to design the game around it.

[unfnknblvbl]

yeah, doing a mid-generation spec upgrade sets a very, very dangerous precedent. This isn't like plugging in a MegaCD or a 32X, and is somehow even more retarded than Nintendo's mid-gen handheld updates (GBC, DSi, N3DS).

[lestat]

In ps4's case they should have stuck it out until 2018. 4K won't be mainstream for a number of more years, in the meantime stick to 1080p. PSVR can still run on ps4, they just have to design the game around it.

I think VR undid them here, you need to deliver games @ 60fps+ to avoid motion sickness/headaches and create immersion. Current hardware isn't good enough to do that, there is a reason why occulus and htc have minimum specs as GTX 970 cards.

Also the threat of MS leap frogging them on 3rd party performance has them spooked, really it's the only reason PS4 has done so well, the whole 1080p vs 900p has had a huge impact.

[unfnknblvbl]

really? MS are going to leapfrog them on 3rd-party performance with a less powerful machine?

[t0mby]

This is really going to damage console gaming. First you're going to have titles that play on both systems but will be gimped on PS4 *Insert Candy/Lestat comment how console games are already gimped* but play better on PS4.5 (GT Sport for one comes to mind). Second, it's going to confuse the market to the average Joe. They'll wonder why there is another console so soon into the cycle and with the price being higher some people will think it's a new gen. Thirdly, people that jumped in already will wonder how long the 4.5 will last, will they be aiming for a 10 year cycle with 4.5 or will it be a stop gap till next gen in 2019-2020?

[Twiztid Elf]

The three things that bother me about incremental console updates are:

1) Inconsistent compatibility.
Right now, my Dreamcast games work on my Dreamcast. My X360 games work on my X360, etc.
With PC and iOS style incrementally stepped technology, you do not have this true 'clean' compatibility. Old PC content doesn't necessarily work on current PC's. Old iOS content doesn't necessarily work on current iOS devices, which leads on to...

2) Limitations, legacy and burden on software and developers?
What is the level of responsibility placed on developers to maintain software compatibility as a platform incrementally upgrades? What about the resource drain and diminishing returns on having to perform such constant re-work for games that have limited customer base? We've already seen this on iOS where devs just abandon and remove their apps due to forward compatibility issues.

3) Locking the company, and thus the consumers into a ecosystem with hardware/OS limitations.
This is more of a future proofing concern. Nobody knows what the future brings. When new technological advances happen, will these eco-systems be 'locked' into legacy hardware or OS-level technology?
I guess this is when in the future true traditional generational shift would occur?

I just don't understand why we're applying a mainstream common casual approach to a market that has 30+ years of satisfied status quo.
"Technical debt" I guess is the correct phrase to encapsulate my concerns.

The PS4 is breaking records in sales and they are making a profit on each console sold. They are also have the majority of the market place. This sounds like a huge financial risk just for pushing 4K? I mean their Bravia TV brand was sold from what I remember or got curbed not too long ago. I doubt it's the only reason. I think they want to push VR very hard later this year, and the PS4 is just not capable hardware wise but is it really worth the risk to reverse everything they gained this gen with the PS4?

Bold and Arrogant Sony is definitely back.

And its going to bite them in the ass HARD when PS4K and PS VR bomb at retail. They never seem to learn, now that the PS4 is a great success, they are going to go backwards again.....how dumb :l.

[Madmya]

really? MS are going to leapfrog them on 3rd-party performance with a less powerful machine?

I think he's referring to Microsoft's impending upgraded xbox one.

[GameHED]

This is really going to damage console gaming. First you're going to have titles that play on both systems but will be gimped on PS4 *Insert Candy/Lestat comment how console games are already gimped* but play better on PS4.5 (GT Sport for one comes to mind). Second, it's going to confuse the market to the average Joe. They'll wonder why there is another console so soon into the cycle and with the price being higher some people will think it's a new gen. Thirdly, people that jumped in already will wonder how long the 4.5 will last, will they be aiming for a 10 year cycle with 4.5 or will it be a stop gap till next gen in 2019-2020?

That's bullshit. Nobody gave a fuck when 3DS got a bigger screen and most people can play the old games on the 3DS fine.

When the analogue nub came out monster hunter fans were relieved that they didn't need an adapter.

And wii got a second version of the wii mote.

Why didnt anyone complain when you had to use a wiimote + just to play Skyward Sword?

Because you guys are ignorant of the incremental upgrades that consoles have ALWAYS HAD.

reviewtech usa brings up some great points here about the ps1 getting a mid gen upgrade:

Industry has gotten bigger now so we must not let low specs hold gaming back. When nintendo released the DS all you idiots got angry that it was "just a reaction to psp lol. Nintendo made a big mistake releasing an underpowered handheld! Sony has got them by the balls for SURE THIS TIME!"

Now when Sony do a .5 update to PS4 all of a sudden it's "omg they are abandoning the original model in reaction to NX" dickheads... You've had incrmental upgrades in all the gens but you failed to notice it. Sometimes it was an upgraded controller like when sony made a dual shock after the n64 showed us analogue sticks could be useful for platformers. Or when nintendo put extra little chips in cartridges (eg in starfox which had full 3D gameplay) to compete with Saturn and 32X and ps1 (which was ful of shitty FMV crap) when they still had a SNES which was aging.
Or when Megadrive had 6 button controller for Street Fighter II port. AN UPGRADED CONTROLLER FOR ONE FUCKING GAME!!! How come you didn't complain about having to upgrade your controller? Other times it was slight changes in power like when N64 had the memory upgrade to play Majora's mask in higher res and was a requirement.
Remember when you had to buy a rumble pack to get feedback when you crashed into things in n64 titles? But you didn't complain when you played goldeneye and felt the rumble everytime you shot your guns. Now all of a sudden you are complaining that you need to upgrade the ps4 to play VR. Come on. You are more wealthy than back in the past.

Stop complaining. As long as the new model is backwards compatible with the old games you don't have a right to get angry. Any more than Wii owners who know they just got a gamecube turbo with widescreen ability. Just let the market have budget option and a premium and the developers don't have to put up with downgrading the engines of the games so much. You complained witcher 3 looked like crap compared to the previews. Now that you have option to make it look a bit closer to the preview you are complaining about abandoning the old system even though it will co-exist with the new one. Make up you fucking mind you brats.
You guys are the kind of idiots that will buy GTA5 twice just to get better graphics but then not care about consoles getting a bit better in specs even though the shit third party can barely give you the 60fps 1080P standard which is OLD!

As for the secret sauce thing: yes there is secret power. But the manufacturer keeps all that to themselves which is why third party games look like utter shit compared to first party titles.

All you guys need to do is let your game autodetect what version of ps4 you have and the game will downgrade the textures, lessen the draw distance, and and remove FX that make the game chug. It does not mean you will see two different versions of the title ie the .5 version and the standard version. So the shelves won't be flooded with two of the same game. There is no risk. The 3DS does this NOW. But you didn't even fucking notice until people told you about it.

[Candy Arse]

Or when Megadrive had 6 button controller for Street Fighter II port. AN UPGRADED CONTROLLER FOR ONE FUCKING GAME!!! How come you didn't complain about having to upgrade your controller? Other times it was slight changes in power like when N64 had the memory upgrade to play Majora's mask in higher res and was a requirement.
Remember when you had to buy a rumble pack to get feedback when you crashed into things in n64 titles? But you didn't complain when you played goldeneye and felt the rumble everytime you shot your guns. Now all of a sudden you are complaining that you need to upgrade the ps4 to play VR. Come on. You are more wealthy than back in the past.

Hey bro, not sure if you had arrived on Earth in 1993 when SF2 was released on the MegaDrive, but we didn't have gaming message boards back then.

Or the internet, for that matter.

[GameHED]

Actually colleges had that stuff. Of course it ran at 28k or 33kbps or some shit speed and porn took ages to see.

The internet was around back when the transformers G1 cartoon was made but only the nerdy types used it.

You don't remember the 90s because you were too busy ignoring gaming and playing shit text adventure crap on your shit pc which couldn't even do anything without sound card and only made crappy blips and bleeps like a GBA.
Just becuase pc sucked and the only good thing on it was ultima and kings quest games, doesn't mean people were not around to talk about games on BBS. The internet is not just the world wide web.



chip chase using the internet in the transformers

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Chip_Chase" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

episode with chip chase overcoming his disability with brains ("Roll For It" Season 1 episode 5):

he mentions the internet and prowl goes online to communicate to other computers connected to the internet for help.
I guess Chip was the kind to play MUD back then maybe instead of world of warcraft so he had his computer connected at all times? (copyright so I can't post the whole episode where he says the internet but its on the dvd)

[GameHED]

Ahhh
Here is the episode where chip chase uses the internet:
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couldn't post because youtube wants people to pay money jesus they are greedy fucks...

[unfnknblvbl]

Or when Megadrive had 6 button controller for Street Fighter II port. AN UPGRADED CONTROLLER FOR ONE FUCKING GAME!!! How come you didn't complain about having to upgrade your controller?

Not sure what drugs you're (not) on, but shitloads of MegaDrive games supported the 6-button pad. Nobody complained about having to upgrade the controller because everybody wanted to. The same happened with the analogue controller for the PSX, back in the day. Even the Saturn did it.
Changing or updating the controller mid-generation is OK. Changing the technical specifications of the machine itself though, is completely fucking different to updating the input method, and kinda not OK.

[Candy Arse]

Actually colleges had that stuff. Of course it ran at 28k or 33kbps or some shit speed and porn took ages to see.

The internet was around back when the transformers G1 cartoon was made but only the nerdy types used it.

You don't remember the 90s because you were too busy ignoring gaming and playing shit text adventure crap on your shit pc which couldn't even do anything without sound card and only made crappy blips and bleeps like a GBA.
Just becuase pc sucked and the only good thing on it was ultima and kings quest games, doesn't mean people were not around to talk about games on BBS. The internet is not just the world wide web.



chip chase using the internet in the transformers

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Chip_Chase" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

episode with chip chase overcoming his disability with brains ("Roll For It" Season 1 episode 5):

he mentions the internet and prowl goes online to communicate to other computers connected to the internet for help.
I guess Chip was the kind to play MUD back then maybe instead of world of warcraft so he had his computer connected at all times? (copyright so I can't post the whole episode where he says the internet but its on the dvd)

Cool story bro, so what you're saying is that we should have left our primary or high school in 1993 to go to a college hoping they had internet access to complain about a 6-button controller for the MegaDrive which actually made compatible games play 100x better.

Did we ever get confirmation on what disorder you actually have?

[t0mby]

Or when Megadrive had 6 button controller for Street Fighter II port. AN UPGRADED CONTROLLER FOR ONE FUCKING GAME!!! How come you didn't complain about having to upgrade your controller? Other times it was slight changes in power like when N64 had the memory upgrade to play Majora's mask in higher res and was a requirement.
Remember when you had to buy a rumble pack to get feedback when you crashed into things in n64 titles? But you didn't complain when you played goldeneye and felt the rumble everytime you shot your guns. Now all of a sudden you are complaining that you need to upgrade the ps4 to play VR. Come on. You are more wealthy than back in the past.

Hey bro, not sure if you had arrived on Earth in 1993 when SF2 was released on the MegaDrive, but we didn't have gaming message boards back then.

Or the internet, for that matter.

For someone that likes to jump on board the latest tech I'm really surprised you didn't have the internet back then. It was all the rage!

[Candy Arse]

Yeah I wasn't self-employed and financially secure when I was 15. Late bloomer, apparently.

[GameHED]

Or when Megadrive had 6 button controller for Street Fighter II port. AN UPGRADED CONTROLLER FOR ONE FUCKING GAME!!! How come you didn't complain about having to upgrade your controller?

Not sure what drugs you're (not) on, but shitloads of MegaDrive games supported the 6-button pad. Nobody complained about having to upgrade the controller because everybody wanted to. The same happened with the analogue controller for the PSX, back in the day. Even the Saturn did it.
Changing or updating the controller mid-generation is OK. Changing the technical specifications of the machine itself though, is completely fucking different to updating the input method, and kinda not OK.

That's utter bullshit and you know it.

So you are saying that when I upgraded my 3DS to play my games on a bigger screen and have a analoge camera nub that I only did it because I'm forced to do it rather than wanting it?

Idiot. That's as bad as saying people who turn off the 3D function off to get the 60FPS are going to kill the old 3DS model off because they are given an option to see a game run smooth at the sacrifice of the 3D effect which gives you depth perception.

I can play IronFall Invasion (gears of war and binary domain clone) in 60fps.... or ...30fps with 3D turned on. Same with sony when they bring out the .5 ps4 upgrade. You have the option to play old games you loved and new games with a higher framerate. The old games will still be playable on old models. The old model will still play the new games just without as pretty visuals or smoother framerate. But that doesn't mean they are unplayable. Just maybe sacrifice resolution or draw distance once the game autodetects the system specs.

It's not hard to downgrade graphics to keep framerates up. This is the future. Stop complaining. This is like getting angry that a high budget version of 3DS exist with more buttons and nub, and that because it exists the owners of the low budget 2DS are going to be left out. Nintendo did it. Sony should be able to do it for home consoles too.
When xbox 360 came out it had the RROD. That was automatic forced upgrade to new model right there. You are just scared Sony get to do what MS did back last gen.

[GameHED]

Actually colleges had that stuff. Of course it ran at 28k or 33kbps or some shit speed and porn took ages to see.

The internet was around back when the transformers G1 cartoon was made but only the nerdy types used it.

You don't remember the 90s because you were too busy ignoring gaming and playing shit text adventure crap on your shit pc which couldn't even do anything without sound card and only made crappy blips and bleeps like a GBA.
Just becuase pc sucked and the only good thing on it was ultima and kings quest games, doesn't mean people were not around to talk about games on BBS. The internet is not just the world wide web.



chip chase using the internet in the transformers

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Chip_Chase" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

episode with chip chase overcoming his disability with brains ("Roll For It" Season 1 episode 5):

he mentions the internet and prowl goes online to communicate to other computers connected to the internet for help.
I guess Chip was the kind to play MUD back then maybe instead of world of warcraft so he had his computer connected at all times? (copyright so I can't post the whole episode where he says the internet but its on the dvd)

Cool story bro, so what you're saying is that we should have left our primary or high school in 1993 to go to a college hoping they had internet access to complain about a 6-button controller for the MegaDrive which actually made compatible games play 100x better.

Did we ever get confirmation on what disorder you actually have?

You're right the internet didn't exist because you were in primary school. You got owned bad in that last reply. Might want to accept it and cut your loss. If you say something didn't exist, and then I correct you on it by pointing out that the internet is not the world wide web and that college kids had access to it as well as the military, it doesn't matter whether you were even alive or not. You could be an alien or a robot and it wouldn't change a thing. You were owned. That's all that matters. Just like tomby is owned for being scared that a new model of PS4 is coming.
This guy wants everyone else to suffer with low framerates when you can have high framerates. Why should developers make games ugly just to please him? Just let us have the option to have standard and upgrade model mid gen. A gen last 10 fucking years! We need at least 1080P 60fps.

Wii U gave us 720P with 59FPS so I think that the 1080P with 60fps should be a standard. Hopefully consistent 60fps at least to keep up with specs of other platforms which will only kill off home console. If you don't do it sony will fail to encourage people to try VR and the mass market will reject the gimmick and no games will be made for VR due to bad first impression. You got to be careful here because if you make the VR games shit people might never take the risk again. So get out your wallet and stop being tightarses.

Every post you idiots make is about making fun of the xbox one only being able to do 900P. And now you have suddenly changed your attitude and want to hold the console platforms back by not letting games have high framerates without bad graphics? Third parties as I have explained don't have the coding skills to access the secret sauce. So to help lessen this problem you need more brute force. It cost just a bit more money to upgrade the specs than to buy 2 of every game, (only rewarding the biggest companies which are filthy rich and abuse their employees) which is what you idiots like to do.

[GameHED]

Or when Megadrive had 6 button controller for Street Fighter II port. AN UPGRADED CONTROLLER FOR ONE FUCKING GAME!!! How come you didn't complain about having to upgrade your controller? Other times it was slight changes in power like when N64 had the memory upgrade to play Majora's mask in higher res and was a requirement.
Remember when you had to buy a rumble pack to get feedback when you crashed into things in n64 titles? But you didn't complain when you played goldeneye and felt the rumble everytime you shot your guns. Now all of a sudden you are complaining that you need to upgrade the ps4 to play VR. Come on. You are more wealthy than back in the past.

Hey bro, not sure if you had arrived on Earth in 1993 when SF2 was released on the MegaDrive, but we didn't have gaming message boards back then.

Or the internet, for that matter.

For someone that likes to jump on board the latest tech I'm really surprised you didn't have the internet back then. It was all the rage!

Technology tends to flow down from the military to schools and then finally to the consumer market. He assumed that because he didn't have it, then NOBODY HAD IT. And that nobody complained on BBS. (this is the older version of the forums of today)

The next thing he will say is networks didn't exist before he was born therefore computer geeks and gamers never talked about the shortcomings of certain platforms since he wasn't around. If he was around then that means it exists.
And then after this a decade from now he will claim that John Carmack invented VR. lol

Keep in mind that some technology is not publicly known because it's hidden from the common man. We are way more primitive than people like to admit. Qauntum computers are going to replace what we have but I think progress is slowed for political reasons.

You guys are way too dangerous to be given power so you have to be made to believe you are advanced to keep the world safe so you don't create megatron. You still must use computers that have less memory than megaman X in the 1990s.

^
if you look at the boot sequence on megaman X it was 32,768 TB. (fast forward to 00:13 seconds into the video)

Your PS4 is primitive compared to an old robot from the 90s. A tiny upgrade so you can play open world rpg at 60fps for dizzy-free head tracking is not much to ask.

[Candy Arse]

Actually colleges had that stuff. Of course it ran at 28k or 33kbps or some shit speed and porn took ages to see.

The internet was around back when the transformers G1 cartoon was made but only the nerdy types used it.

You don't remember the 90s because you were too busy ignoring gaming and playing shit text adventure crap on your shit pc which couldn't even do anything without sound card and only made crappy blips and bleeps like a GBA.
Just becuase pc sucked and the only good thing on it was ultima and kings quest games, doesn't mean people were not around to talk about games on BBS. The internet is not just the world wide web.



chip chase using the internet in the transformers

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Chip_Chase" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

episode with chip chase overcoming his disability with brains ("Roll For It" Season 1 episode 5):

he mentions the internet and prowl goes online to communicate to other computers connected to the internet for help.
I guess Chip was the kind to play MUD back then maybe instead of world of warcraft so he had his computer connected at all times? (copyright so I can't post the whole episode where he says the internet but its on the dvd)

Cool story bro, so what you're saying is that we should have left our primary or high school in 1993 to go to a college hoping they had internet access to complain about a 6-button controller for the MegaDrive which actually made compatible games play 100x better.

Did we ever get confirmation on what disorder you actually have?

You're right the internet didn't exist because you were in primary school. You got owned bad in that last reply. Might want to accept it and cut your loss. If you say something didn't exist, and then I correct you on it by pointing out that the internet is not the world wide web and that college kids had access to it as well as the military, it doesn't matter whether you were even alive or not. You could be an alien or a robot and it wouldn't change a thing. You were owned. That's all that matters. Just like tomby is owned for being scared that a new model of PS4 is coming.
This guy wants everyone else to suffer with low framerates when you can have high framerates. Why should developers make games ugly just to please him? Just let us have the option to have standard and upgrade model mid gen. A gen last 10 fucking years! We need at least 1080P 60fps.

Wii U gave us 720P with 59FPS so I think that the 1080P with 60fps should be a standard. Hopefully consistent 60fps at least to keep up with specs of other platforms which will only kill off home console. If you don't do it sony will fail to encourage people to try VR and the mass market will reject the gimmick and no games will be made for VR due to bad first impression. You got to be careful here because if you make the VR games shit people might never take the risk again. So get out your wallet and stop being tightarses.

Every post you idiots make is about making fun of the xbox one only being able to do 900P. And now you have suddenly changed your attitude and want to hold the console platforms back by not letting games have high framerates without bad graphics? Third parties as I have explained don't have the coding skills to access the secret sauce. So to help lessen this problem you need more brute force. It cost just a bit more money to upgrade the specs than to buy 2 of every game, (only rewarding the biggest companies which are filthy rich and abuse their employees) which is what you idiots like to do.

Autism?

[unfnknblvbl]

I can't believe you engage this guy.

[Candy Arse]

I have a personal challenge - use the fewest words in my posts to get the biggest words in his posts. I want to see if a 5 word or less post can get a 1000 word meltdown.

[GameHED]

*sigh* lets start again to make it clear:

Or when Megadrive had 6 button controller for Street Fighter II port. AN UPGRADED CONTROLLER FOR ONE FUCKING GAME!!! How come you didn't complain about having to upgrade your controller? Other times it was slight changes in power like when N64 had the memory upgrade to play Majora's mask in higher res and was a requirement.
Remember when you had to buy a rumble pack to get feedback when you crashed into things in n64 titles? But you didn't complain when you played goldeneye and felt the rumble everytime you shot your guns. Now all of a sudden you are complaining that you need to upgrade the ps4 to play VR. Come on. You are more wealthy than back in the past.

Hey bro, not sure if you had arrived on Earth in 1993 when SF2 was released on the MegaDrive, but we didn't have gaming message boards back then.

Or the internet, for that matter.

Sooo ummm did you not post this? Why did you claim the internet didn't exist?

Do you mean it didn't exist for you or the world?

It's weird reading your post to know if you are speaking about whether you had the internet or if you are referring to everyone not having it.

For example long before gaming boards we had usenet bulletin boards. I used to post to these specifically the street fighter ones. It wasn't as pleasant to look at but this was way back in the mid 90s when people wore baggy pants and sitcoms like married with children and the simpsons were still new.

So I ask the question candy arsehole: Do you believe the internet existed in the mid 90s or not?
Many people used the internet back in the days of Street Fighter 2. They posted SF2 threads to usenet.

Do you know this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=39870146" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

alt.games.sf2 newsgroup was the one I liked to hang out on:
http://wiki.shoryuken.com/History" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Introduction

In the beginning, there was rec.games.video.arcade.

And lo, the year became 1991 and r.g.v.a. was overrun by demon spawns addicted to SF2, arguing ceaselessly about tactics and who was the best.

These demon spawns were cast out by the r.g.v.a. losers into the pit known as alt.games.sf2

alt.games.sf2 begat Tom and Seth. Tom and Seth fought, but eventually joined forces.

Another site that was around in the early days was the brawl.mindlink.net ftp site ran by David "Zoid" Kirsch. Before there were sites like GameFAQS or Shoryuken.com, it was a great place to get all of the early SF2 FAQs.

Are you going to claim these guys were hallucinating and that the internet wasn't aroun to talk about SF2 now? lol

I am an open minded guy but when you post crap you need to be called on that stuff just like the rest of us and admit you made a fool of yourself. I had internet access and talked about games on the usenet bbs.

And while you are trying to damage control the next post:

the earth is flat, NASA is full of shit:

stop being a close-minded idiot. Just because you were brainwashed by the lizards doesn't mean everyone else was. Game of Thrones was right all along there is a wall of ice on the outer rim of the map and the UN symbol is the freemason's clue to this. You are like Truman in the Truman Show and until you get a boat and try to explore you will never know for sure ok? I would respect you more if you spent some of that money you wasted on upgrading pc on something like seeing what's at the edge of the map. Lots of people want to but the military will attempt to stop you doing it.

Just accept you are insane like cletus. You should have been banned years ago. lol

Now answer those questions. And do you accept the world might be flat because the pictures are all fake? If you don't know can you please go on a journey to the edge and let me know what is there? I thought not. Because you are scared you might be wrong instead of growing your knowledge. It's all about the ego being burst.

When greywizard owned you on the sales of Pokken Tournament vs Street Fighter 5 (ie pokken still selling more despite being on a platform with smaller userbase) I knew you were pissed but not this much.

Never ever trust Candy Arse people. Let this thread be a lesson on that. He is just an ad for Valve imo. As much as I like PC candy, it's doomed like Atari Lynx. People want to play games on the mobile phones now which is why game companies are trying to make a quick buck creating shitty non-gamer games on them due to high userbase. If Sony doesn't adapt this could be the last home console generation before the big companies quit and start going the way of konami.

[Candy Arse]

*sigh* lets start again to make it clear:

Or when Megadrive had 6 button controller for Street Fighter II port. AN UPGRADED CONTROLLER FOR ONE FUCKING GAME!!! How come you didn't complain about having to upgrade your controller? Other times it was slight changes in power like when N64 had the memory upgrade to play Majora's mask in higher res and was a requirement.
Remember when you had to buy a rumble pack to get feedback when you crashed into things in n64 titles? But you didn't complain when you played goldeneye and felt the rumble everytime you shot your guns. Now all of a sudden you are complaining that you need to upgrade the ps4 to play VR. Come on. You are more wealthy than back in the past.

Hey bro, not sure if you had arrived on Earth in 1993 when SF2 was released on the MegaDrive, but we didn't have gaming message boards back then.

Or the internet, for that matter.

Sooo ummm did you not post this? Why did you claim the internet didn't exist?

Do you mean it didn't exist for you or the world?

It's weird reading your post to know if you are speaking about whether you had the internet or if you are referring to everyone not having it.

For example long before gaming boards we had usenet bulletin boards. I used to post to these specifically the street fighter ones. It wasn't as pleasant to look at but this was way back in the mid 90s when people wore baggy pants and sitcoms like married with children and the simpsons were still new.

So I ask the question candy arsehole: Do you believe the internet existed in the mid 90s or not?
Many people used the internet back in the days of Street Fighter 2. They posted SF2 threads to usenet.

Do you know this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=39870146" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

alt.games.sf2 newsgroup was the one I liked to hang out on:
http://wiki.shoryuken.com/History" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Introduction

In the beginning, there was rec.games.video.arcade.

And lo, the year became 1991 and r.g.v.a. was overrun by demon spawns addicted to SF2, arguing ceaselessly about tactics and who was the best.

These demon spawns were cast out by the r.g.v.a. losers into the pit known as alt.games.sf2

alt.games.sf2 begat Tom and Seth. Tom and Seth fought, but eventually joined forces.

Another site that was around in the early days was the brawl.mindlink.net ftp site ran by David "Zoid" Kirsch. Before there were sites like GameFAQS or Shoryuken.com, it was a great place to get all of the early SF2 FAQs.

Are you going to claim these guys were hallucinating and that the internet wasn't aroun to talk about SF2 now? lol

I am an open minded guy but when you post crap you need to be called on that stuff just like the rest of us and admit you made a fool of yourself. I had internet access and talked about games on the usenet bbs.

And while you are trying to damage control the next post:

the earth is flat, NASA is full of shit:

stop being a close-minded idiot. Just because you were brainwashed by the lizards doesn't mean everyone else was. Game of Thrones was right all along there is a wall of ice on the outer rim of the map and the UN symbol is the freemason's clue to this. You are like Truman in the Truman Show and until you get a boat and try to explore you will never know for sure ok? I would respect you more if you spent some of that money you wasted on upgrading pc on something like seeing what's at the edge of the map. Lots of people want to but the military will attempt to stop you doing it.

Just accept you are insane like cletus. You should have been banned years ago. lol

Now answer those questions. And do you accept the world might be flat because the pictures are all fake? If you don't know can you please go on a journey to the edge and let me know what is there? I thought not. Because you are scared you might be wrong instead of growing your knowledge. It's all about the ego being burst.

When greywizard owned you on the sales of Pokken Tournament vs Street Fighter 5 (ie pokken still selling more despite being on a platform with smaller userbase) I knew you were pissed but not this much.

Never ever trust Candy Arse people. Let this thread be a lesson on that. He is just an ad for Valve imo. As much as I like PC candy, it's doomed like Atari Lynx. People want to play games on the mobile phones now which is why game companies are trying to make a quick buck creating shitty non-gamer games on them due to high userbase. If Sony doesn't adapt this could be the last home console generation before the big companies quit and start going the way of konami.

I'll respond to this when you beat me at a first-to-10 in Street Fighter 5. Until then I'll continue to guess what disorder you have.

Aspergers?

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What the shit did I just read?

[Candy Arse]

I think he said the Earth is flat?