Xbox 1.5 is coming
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Re: Xbox 1.5 is coming
To be clear, Elf, we're talking about this immediate console. Not some indefinite forward compatibility. This is supposed to be an "elite" version of the same console, not a generational step. You'd have to expect the CPU architecture to be the same, the main challenge will involve the GPU and if it's going to be much more powerful as stated, it should be doable. The ESRAM being the biggest hurdle but in lestat I trust with his wide BUS statement.
It's never been done before because we've generally had wildly changing hardware. We're all on x64 now, if they could do the job they did with 360 then I see no reason. Again, do you believe Sony and MS are going to release a newer console that can't play PS4/XB1 games 100%?
It's never been done before because we've generally had wildly changing hardware. We're all on x64 now, if they could do the job they did with 360 then I see no reason. Again, do you believe Sony and MS are going to release a newer console that can't play PS4/XB1 games 100%?
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Fuck it's not that hard to follow.
I have a PC exactly the same as my mates, before Doom comes out he updates his graphics card and ram.
We both install and play doom and it configures and runs faster and at a higher res on his PC to me. I'm still happy and he is happy and is this really that hard a concept to follow.
Technical Debt ffs get a grip.
I have a PC exactly the same as my mates, before Doom comes out he updates his graphics card and ram.
We both install and play doom and it configures and runs faster and at a higher res on his PC to me. I'm still happy and he is happy and is this really that hard a concept to follow.
Technical Debt ffs get a grip.
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So, we're going to be on x64 forever now? Nothing will ever change that?Madmya wrote:It's never been done before because we've generally had wildly changing hardware. We're all on x64 now, if they could do the job they did with 360 then I see no reason.
Not anytime soon. But 15-20 years from now?Madmya wrote:Again, do you believe Sony and MS are going to release a newer console that can't play PS4/XB1 games 100%?
Yeah, but what if you have a PC from 5 years ago? 10 years ago? (console lifespan lengths of time).Froggy wrote:I have a PC exactly the same as my mates, before Doom comes out he updates his graphics card and ram.
We both install and play doom and it configures and runs faster and at a higher res on his PC to me.
Does your PC still run new Doom? Or are you having to upgrade hardware and operating systems?
Eh. You clearly don't and have never worked in tech with legacy systems.Froggy wrote:Technical Debt ffs get a grip.
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Tbh, I'm so disillusioned that I'm seriously considering PC/Nintendo only. Buy a second PC for the loungeroom is really starting to sound appealing.
The last console I didn't buy was Atari Jaguar.
The last console I didn't buy was Atari Jaguar.
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Seriously, how can I make it more clear? The post you're responding to explicitly states "To be clear, Elf, we're talking about this immediate console." I've go no fucking idea where you've got it in your head that I'm talking about some kind of infinite backwards compatibility, and you have the gall to call me delusional. Unless you've taken my "xbox as a service" statement and made some kind of infinite expansion with it.Twiztid Elf wrote:So, we're going to be on x64 forever now? Nothing will ever change that?Madmya wrote:It's never been done before because we've generally had wildly changing hardware. We're all on x64 now, if they could do the job they did with 360 then I see no reason.
Noted. And if you're right I'd imagine many more people will go the way of a Nintendo/PC setup.Twiztid Elf wrote:Not anytime soon. But 15-20 years from now?Madmya wrote:Again, do you believe Sony and MS are going to release a newer console that can't play PS4/XB1 games 100%?
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Neither of us ever said that.Twiztid Elf wrote:So, we're going to be on x64 forever now? Nothing will ever change that?
I don't get your point? In 15 - 20 years from now if you can't run todays game's on a new console then it is severely under powered. I don't follow your point on this one, I would hope in that timeframe they'd be able to virtualise the environment or something and run it that way surely.Twiztid Elf wrote:Not anytime soon. But 15-20 years from now?
I don't even get your point, what Madmya and I are saying it quite clear. Say I own an xbox one elite and you own the original xbox, we both go to the shop and buy Doom. I go home and play it at 60fps with higher res, you go home with the same game and same disc and play it at 30fps with slightly lower res, both playing the same game for xbox one. What exactly do you not follow with this?Twiztid Elf wrote:Yeah, but what if you have a PC from 5 years ago? 10 years ago? (console lifespan lengths of time).Froggy wrote:I have a PC exactly the same as my mates, before Doom comes out he updates his graphics card and ram.We both install and play doom and it configures and runs faster and at a higher res on his PC to me.
Does your PC still run new Doom? Or are you having to upgrade hardware and operating systems?
I do work in tech, that's why I don't understand how you aren't following what the Madmya is laying down!Twiztid Elf wrote:Eh. You clearly don't and have never worked in tech with legacy systems.Froggy wrote:Technical Debt ffs get a grip.
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I honestly don't get it either, Froggy. He seems willing to move to PC, but not for a renowned console to move into a PC-like direction.
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I want consoles to be a closed system that provides experiences I can't get on my PC.
The idea of that seems antiquated tbh... Game companies just don't develop like that if they want to survive. You put your product where anyone can get it.
The idea of that seems antiquated tbh... Game companies just don't develop like that if they want to survive. You put your product where anyone can get it.
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Buy a $229 8GB AMD 480x in a htpc case, with windows 10 you now already have a better than PS4k/Xbox1.5 system.Twiztid Elf wrote:Tbh, I'm so disillusioned that I'm seriously considering PC/Nintendo only. Buy a second PC for the loungeroom is really starting to sound appealing.
The last console I didn't buy was Atari Jaguar.
I'm going to revive my HTPC in such a manner with a cheap 480x. Will be great for playing games on the couch. The GTX1080 will be in the study for more serious gaming.
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ITT: Couch gaming is not serious gaming.
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t0mby wrote:ITT: Couch gaming is not serious gaming.
Candy Arse wrote:If you're getting 60fps on a massive screen and are having a great experience, don't rock your own boat. I did that for quite some time as well and it was awesome.
Rorschach wrote:IPS panels offer the best colour reproduction and Gsync offers hardware adaptive sync which makes a big difference in terms of screen tearing and slow down. However, if you are comfortable and happy with your current setup don't go a changing.
Candy Arse wrote:I used to have this really good large Bravia LCD TV that somehow had insanely low display lag so I used to have Street Fighter gatherings with the local FGC at my place all the time. The fucking thing was insane for all games, just brilliant.
Then I bought myself a 3DTV, larger, new and fancy etc and even the "gaming" mode was BALLS for fighting games, so that's when I went down the gaming monitor path.
Had I kept that Bravia I may still be in the "PC gaming on a large TV" camp.
Don't get me wrong, this IPS panel is fucking incredible, gaming on this thing is a pure pleasure...but there's no right or wrong IMO.
Modern TVs are perfectly capable of showing off what PC gaming can do.
Ambrose Burnside wrote:I feel more comfortable in my study with keyboard and mouse playing games like Doom and Warhammer on a monitor than I would trying to juggle a keyboard and mouse in the theatre. I have streamed games like Mortal Kombat X from my PC in the study to the big screen (using Steam Big Picture Mode) though and played with ye olde 360 controller
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t0mby knows not of what he speaks.
For the record I also play PC games on a couch in my games room still, I just use the flashy gsync monitor now. When it's a game that I MUST use KBAM, it's the computer chair for me!
Best of both worlds.
For the record I also play PC games on a couch in my games room still, I just use the flashy gsync monitor now. When it's a game that I MUST use KBAM, it's the computer chair for me!
Best of both worlds.
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Wireless kbam and a stable table.
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Candy Arse wrote:t0mby knows not of what he speaks.
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I'm going to revive my HTPC in such a manner with a cheap 480x. Will be great for playing games on the couch. The GTX1080 will be in the study for more serious gaming.
t0mby wrote:ITT: Couch gaming is not serious gaming.
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One post. Nice work hot shot.
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What's serious gaming? What does that even mean??
Playing a deep story 40 hr rpg on a console or handheld is not serious gaming? It only becomes serious gaming when I sit at a desk and use a high end pc and play the same game? WTF is serious gaming?
Playing a deep story 40 hr rpg on a console or handheld is not serious gaming? It only becomes serious gaming when I sit at a desk and use a high end pc and play the same game? WTF is serious gaming?
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selfish wrote:Being a massive fanboy and trying to hide it is Lestat's worst bottleneck.
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Not a Nintendo game!GreyWizzard wrote:WTF is serious gaming?
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Playing a fighting game single-player only sounds pretty serious to me.GreyWizzard wrote:WTF is serious gaming?
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No PS4 neo at E3.......6tfolps scared Sony???
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How could they be scared when they have sold 40 million.
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Doubtful Sony is scared when they're the only game in town.
I wonder if they're trying to figure out how to manage this in a non-32X-type fashion.
I wonder if they're trying to figure out how to manage this in a non-32X-type fashion.
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Maybe scared is the wrong word to use......
Cold feet?? Holding back?? Waiting to see what MS does.....
Cold feet?? Holding back?? Waiting to see what MS does.....
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There's a great article on Eurogamer on why PS4K isn't needed. It's a very compelling argument.
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I agree both of these .5 consoles are not needed. Time to move on and just release the next full upgrade. Both machines where under powered and both companies where more worried about a cheap affordable console. 2017 will be the same amount of life of the original xbox, MS's next bone is set to be released then, just maybe the new bone is a complete new gen and not a half arsed release...................