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Summary

Important bits:

- Malka denies the allegations, claims nude shower was consensual

- NeoGAF will be back online soon, he will remain at the helm

- Greater focus on gaming, less on OT “distractions”
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Peppermint Lounge wrote:The term culture takes the present and history into account. Consider there was no legal avenue to prosecute marital rape until very late into the 20th century for example. It was actually legal for husbands to rape wives. Still is in some jurisdictions. There’s a literal instance of culture overriding consent.

And fair enough you’ve cited bad behaviour by women. Yeah that happens. But when was the last time you had a woman rub herself on you during your morning commute, or while walking alone had a woman pull up next to you and offer you money for sex? Happens to my female friends and loved ones many, many times and that’s just two of the more common annoyances. Women have to be on guard always. I don’t. That’s the society we live in right now.
Understood and agree, but that isn’t rape. It’s being a fucking pig who thinks he’s entitled to do what he wants to whomever he wants. Maybe we could label it mysoginy/sexism. But to lump those into something called RAPE culture is extremely poor wording imo.
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lestat wrote:https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article ... -48-hoursd

Summary

Important bits:

- Malka denies the allegations, claims nude shower was consensual

- NeoGAF will be back online soon, he will remain at the helm

- Greater focus on gaming, less on OT “distractions”

This is going to be interesting.

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OH Wow! You gotta check it out now. Someone posted up an anime shower porn gif! People are giving it to evilore just to get banned! What a cluster fuck it is on there. I cannot possibly see how that place, with that hypocrites cunt running it, could possibly survive. Either way, it’s a laugh on there at the moment! Fun seeing them eat each other alive!
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Funniest shit ever. :lol:
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Super Mario Odyssey Spoilers Thread
Do you ever get to follow Peach into the shower
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I’m only 3 pages into the sticky thread and it is full of win.
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AUS gaf people are awesome

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btw this was his explaination to the mods
"Okay, so, this is a personal and somewhat complex web of nonsense involving a highly unstable individual I was friends and briefly FWBs with, but I can only assume there will be a never-ending clusterfuck on gaf now until the end of time, which inevitably involves you guys and gals on the mod team in some way, so I'm an open book here. The woman in question ended up being completely psychotic and held a grudge against me after a bizarre love triangle situation developed a few years ago between me, her, and another girl (the other girl I ended up in a long-term relationship with shortly thereafter). This NOLA story she apparently just put up on social media is a delusion of a deeply disturbed person who had a total psychological breakdown as a result of me and the other girl getting together, because she (phew, yeah…) became obsessively infatuated with the other girl (she's bi) on sight when the three of us met up. I wanted to just stay friends with the girl making the accusation and made it super super clear ahead of time that me and the other girl were interested in each other romantically and that could play out as such when we met up. Supposedly this was not a problem for her from accusation, but in reality she uhhh wanted me to die painfully after seeing me and the other girl interact. Plus she became infatuated with the other girl simultaneously to this (she's bi), which created the aforementioned bizarre love triangle that ended up causing her to implode and have an apparently very intense and long-lasting grudge. The whole story about how that love triangle thing played out is, frankly, nuts and scary, and involves this girl bringing us to a compound of dangerous scientology spinoff cultists on that same trip, who roofied us, attempted to recruit/scam me and attempted to abduct/rape the girl I ended up dating, in what was a fucking scary situation that resulted in me and the other girl and the rest of my friend circle never speaking to this girl from the accusation again."
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well... he might be speaking the truth, who knows.
I mean look at the situation with NRL player sean kenney dowell... he was absolutely hammered by the media and end up having to go to rehab or something like that as a result of a false accusation from a crazy ex.

or he might be a lying cunt.
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Seems reasonable........girls NEVER forget to lock the bathroom door when naked....NEVER.
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Vince wrote:Maybe we could label it mysoginy/sexism. But to lump those into something called RAPE culture is extremely poor wording imo.
You're literally arguing over semantics. You're acknowledging that this thing we all agree on exists, but you're just objecting to the name. That will get you about as far as me objecting to the terms "texting", "text" "inboxing" or "inbox" instead of their correct terms. You might be technically correct, but in the meantime, you just look like an arsehole.
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unfnknblvbl wrote:
Vince wrote:Maybe we could label it mysoginy/sexism. But to lump those into something called RAPE culture is extremely poor wording imo.
You're literally arguing over semantics. You're acknowledging that this thing we all agree on exists, but you're just objecting to the name. That will get you about as far as me objecting to the terms "texting", "text" "inboxing" or "inbox" instead of their correct terms. You might be technically correct, but in the meantime, you just look like an arsehole.
Maybe you’re right. Maybe I am an asshole. Who knows...? I don’t want anything bad to happen to any woman (or men for that matter) so call it what you want. I really don’t care to be honest so long as there is NO rape whatsoever., and women can feel safe doing everyday activities like we (generally) can.
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You're keeping it real Vince, it's sad when the majority of the world wants to look down at you for this.

It's part if being a male, I'm an arsehole by default, I feel it everywhere I go.
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Vince wrote:
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Vince wrote:Maybe we could label it mysoginy/sexism. But to lump those into something called RAPE culture is extremely poor wording imo.
You're literally arguing over semantics. You're acknowledging that this thing we all agree on exists, but you're just objecting to the name. That will get you about as far as me objecting to the terms "texting", "text" "inboxing" or "inbox" instead of their correct terms. You might be technically correct, but in the meantime, you just look like an arsehole.
Maybe you’re right. Maybe I am an asshole. Who knows...? I don’t want anything bad to happen to any woman (or men for that matter) so call it what you want. I really don’t care to be honest so long as there is NO rape whatsoever., and women can feel safe doing everyday activities like we (generally) can.
Maybe lumping it all into a term that is horrible is what is needed though? Catcalling women... trying to drink spike their drinks.. men forcing themselves onto women.. unwanted advances.. even after being declined.. if men don't like those non-rapey actions being termed as being part of rape culture.. maybe they shouldn't fucking well do it and BAM - suddenly their actions won't come under that term.
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Ok there it isn't a rape culture, but you are just calling it that to deter males from harassing females (although drink spiking happens when someone intends to sexual assault imo).
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Given that pretty much all of the examples are used to objectify women and in many situations.. those actions lead to sexual assault? I think makes sense to put it in with the term Rape Culture.

but hey.. if you don't do any of the above.. and you respect women.. you should be comfortable in calling it rape culture since none of it applies to you.
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Calling it a culture is a massive exaggeration. Vince is correct, it's the wrong word and it's not just semantics.
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It's not the wrong word. Consider the actual definition of it. The definition of relevance is "the ideas, customs, and social behaviour of a particular people or society."


Social Culture, the public patterns of relationships and interaction. You can then in turn have sub-cultures.. which is where rape culture is found.

When you consider the definition above.. the ideas and social behaviours regarding men and their behaviours and attitudes towards women.. how there are groups of men who behave and have attitudes towards women that degrade, disrespect.. attack.. and then also assault... like it doesn't matter.. it is effectively men doing things that women do not want. Which again.. makes the term rape culture rather apt.
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We do not live in a rape culture. Suggesting that catcalling women is somehow related to rape is ridiculous and only serves to lessen the meaning of the word rape. I don't think you want the word devalued but that is what you are doing if you try to relate it to things which are NOT rape.
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"particular people or society" implies a large group or the whole.

I don't consider these fringe elements to be representative of the people or our society, therefore their ideas/customs are not our culture.

People are taking offence to the use of culture because it implies this is accepted practice to the whole of society, clearly it is not.
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Depends on the catcall and the spirit behind it. Was talking to my partner about this. I asked her what were some of the more choice instances of men forcing themselves onto her without asking. She said many times men would walk behind her in clubs and say deliberately disgusting, sexually explicit things to her then stand there waiting for the reaction. That’s never happened to me and I doubt it’s happened to those saying ‘rape culture’ is an exaggeration. There’s something about men in that they direct hate and pejoratives to women they sexually desire. Let’s go pick up some sluts. If a girl gives them nothing they immediately turn on them. The cunt who killed Jill Meagher told police he was angry she blew him off after he was being ‘nice’ to her. A great number of men view women possessively. Historically women were possessions. Traditional marriage still has dads handing their daughters over to their new husbands. It’s actually still called ‘giving her away’. That’s as cultural as it gets.

Arguing semantics over the literal meaning of rape and that it shouldn’t be applied to all instances of harassment and assault is your prerogative but it comes off as defensive and minimising. Rape culture among all the research and words written about it includes refusal to acknowledge how widespread and ingrained men’s poor attitudes toward women are.
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Peppermint Lounge wrote:Arguing semantics over the literal meaning of rape and that it shouldn’t be applied to all instances of harassment and assault is your prerogative but it comes off as defensive and minimising.
No, using the word rape to describe all instances of harassment is wrong and diminishes the meaning of the word.


Lestat wrote: "particular people or society" implies a large group or the whole.

I don't consider these fringe elements to be representative of the people or our society, therefore their ideas/customs are not our culture.

People are taking offence to the use of culture because it implies this is accepted practice to the whole of society, clearly it is not.
Spot on :up:

Culture means the majority, Sub-culture means a minority. It's not semantics when it significantly changes the meaning of a word.

I take offence at being told I live in a rape culture because I do not. Now can we get back to the literal meaning of the word Marriage.
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