Fallout 76

[lestat]

New teaser released, looks to be an online Fallout game.

[t0mby]

Is there a market for this? Is Skyrim online even popular?

[GameHED]

It's inevitable that they move it into online game space.

Hopefully this doesn't mean the end of the single player stuff. (just like what happened with GTA5 with content that was going to be made for single player game as add on turning into online content.)

Bethesda should approach the makers of anarchy reigns to make a reboot of it. (using fallout characters instead of platinum ones. Rage 2 is the vehicular post apoc game, fallout 76 is the online one, and this would be the fast paced action game with attitude)

[GameHED]

Seems like it is going to go the route of FO NV:

New Vegas was the good one made by Obsidian under a strict time limit and lovers of fallout 3 didn't like it as much (because bethesda are good at world building but lousy with memorable story) but lovers of older fallout games before bethesda owned the IP liked more because of the characters. Characters are one of the main reason you actualy give a shit if people die or live in your games and what motivates you to progress the story to see what happens next.

Obsidian knows how to do good games and like bethesda they are good at bugs so they are like cousins in spirit. But if you were to give the underdog more time to make fallout game, then bethesda would have seen better product imo. So they screwed themselves over. People need to realise this shit. You got to respect the guys with talent or you will end up being hated by fans. Has bethesda learned the lesson? We'll find out when this thing is out. They need to treat critics like we are the boss of the companies. Without the money you will end up like Blizzard making kiddy titles (admit it diablo 3 isn't what the diablo 1 and 2 fans wanted ok?) with cartoon characters for SJW gamers (what we call the 'fake geeks' who think its ok to ruin our entertainment for their entitled single moms) instead of proper games.

There is a danger that fallout loses appeal as a rpg and kids start to see it as an action rpg when in reality it should be a RPG first with action gameplay second on the list of priorty. Now don't get me wrong I loved the action and combat in Fallout 4. But if they can just combine smooth combat like we got in FO4 with Fallout New Vegas depth of rpg mechanics then they will have hit that sweet spot which we as fans want in modern game of the franchise. (fun as an action rpg but deep enough for RPG purists to respect as an adult's game)
Kids have to grow up at some point so I understand why bethesda want to make noob friendly RPG games to dumb the genre down, in order to get that short term money. But what bethesda should be aiming for is a game that can be seen as a classic game in 10-20 years from now and not just hype which is what most blockbuster triple A games end up being to trick people into buying their games. We are sick of that hype. We want game we can be proud to say we like even decade or 2 from their release and not because of mod community but because the base game was well made from the start. There is a fine line between a cynical cash grab game where you milk the fanbase by providing fanservice (see dragonbal fighter Z) and one where you play it and can tell it was made with passion and the people making it themselves were real fans that wanted to respect it. The cynical cash grab game after months of play starts to feel like a generic rpg with a fallout skin placed on top of it like a minecraft skin. But the latter game, ha a soul of its own and a personality that makes it stand out from all the other rpg and games in the series.

[flipswitch]

I wonder how GameHED will go downloading this on his FTTD, (fibre-to-the-dungeon) connection?

[GameHED]

I probably won't get it.
I think there are too many online games and I fear bethesda is taking everything they were good at and scrapping it and trying to sell horse armor.

Would have more interest in it if there was a single player offline mode like Borderlands.

That's what they need to do: borderlands with bigger open world than the other games. And animal crossing style life simulator. Your friends move in if you can atract them to your city. If you want to sell your house you can sell it and buy another one in another spot and upgrade that. Or own many houses. (just like daggerfall from way back in 1996)

Nobody bloody listens to me. All we need is good AI at least as good as the character in Little Computer People on the C64. But you can have conversations with it and it learns your likes and dislikes and is fed information from the cloud server to gain more variety of jokes to keep you entertained. Fallout 4 might not have had the depth of previous games but it was smooth. Go back to fallout 4 and single player offline adventures. Release it to the switch with new content like Skyrim. (upgraded dialogue options would be cool - just keep upgrading the game forever like Minecraft. Why is that so hard to do?)

Here is what I think they need to do:

offline mode like Monster Hunter World.
Co-op with buddies for quests (secret of mana did this ages ago)
AI bots/companions for when the friends drop out of the game. (they take some of the attention off you during a tough boss fight)
you get paid based on time to kill enemy and rating.

copy Phantasy Star Online (bounty hunters, monster hunters, exploration of dangerous places) but use the Fallout universe.
You got the smooth gameplay in Fallout 4, now adapt that to a loot game ike Borderlands and Phantasy Star Online and Diablo.
Do this and I will buy. (must have story and characters so I am drawn to play campaign at least once through)

Also vehicles: robots allow you to ride atop them and use their turrets for ambush or horde mode sections. These are the standard machines for base defense. Robots make better guards since they have sensors to detect life from range. If the dragon in Skyrim is the "attack chopper of the elder scrolls games" then the robot turret is the anti-air sentry gun for unmanned security which is the anti-raider weapon.

[GameHED]

what on earth was bethesda thinking? lol I guess the idea was to make a game so bad that it would make fallout 4 look good. Then bethesda would have an excuse to never do online gaming again. (leave it to proper mmo companies to use the bethesda properties instead)

Single player experiences is where it is at. Hopefully Obsidian has something for us now that MS purchased them. (spiritual successor to Fallout with proper role playing? Maybe an Elder Scrolls rip off that is better than elder scrolls and completely owned by MS now? There is potential here for winning the award for best buggy open world RPG between these two companies)

Bethesda advantage is making shit fast now that they are so familiar with the old engine they have been using. They can win on volume of content and world building (which is what make fans think fallout 3 is still better than New Vegas despite the system in New Vegas being superior with the reputation and karma system) while Obsidian go for more deep dialogue and interesting characters.

[lestat]

dat Metacritic.

Fallout 76 Review Scores By Platforms
Fallout 76 PS4 – 46% (2.7 User Score)
Fallout 76 Xbox One – 65% (2.4 User Score)
Fallout 76 PC – 59% (2.4 User Score)

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[GameHED]

Let this be a lesson: single player open world epic rpg experiences is what they need to keep focusing on even if they are tired of making it. Think Dragon Age, but without pregenerated characters.

That's bethesda's real reason to exist. All the other shit is just them trying to prove they can make other things But nobody ask for those other things. You are just making them because you think you can make some extra cash on the latest crazes. Nobody gives a shit what 5 year old kids like. They are annoying. Thanks to them GTA5 had no single player DLC add ons.

Fuck it do whatever you want. Cyberpunk is all people are looking forward to anyway. There won't be much time for other games.

Learn from Blizzard's mistakes:

They will become like Valve soon. Only making stuff that earns the most $ and quit making any games. Half Life should be rebooted like how doom was with DOOM 2016. (redo the entire franchise for modern console)
Blizzard's greatest achievements are having high quality Tracer futa porn on pornhub for people to jizz to. Diablo 2 remaster could have saved them. But nooooo they want to cater to children who can't see skeletons or gore. They are slowly ruining their reputation. What I expect in future is Diablo 4 goes the PSO route with a behind the back camera angle. But it looks like Deep Down. (you can see monsters close range and you recreate that scene from lord of the rings movie when all the orcs ambush the fellowship in the mines) People should be scared to explore dark duneons and mines again. Not just loot things. There would be a reason to choose the female looking characters so you can stare at their butts. Female succubus type demons would have massive titties and boob jiggle and be nude. It would not be suitable for little kids. It would be Diablo the REAL gritty and dark game of the first but reimagined for adults. Not these SJW pricks. The opening scene would be zombie actually eating a dead human adventurer like in the resident evil games and you casually chopping its head off and tearing its body up to find if there are any gold rings in its digestive system from the finger its swallowed. It would be disgusting but you are desperate to earn money since the villagers are dirt poor and can't afford to pay you to help them. It would be contender for GOTY. It would take inspiration from manga like Berserk, Goblin Hunter, some Game of Thrones and a bit of LOTR movie. (hobbits and halflings exist but mostly provide herbs and farming products to keep your nutrition up to fight disease which is common inside dungeons with a lot of decaying corpses. You would have to manage health in a more scientific way by studying what herbs are necessary to cure certain diseases and like Zelda Breath of the Wild use monsters as distractions sometimes to sneak past the bosses until you have the right gear to take the boss on. (it would have to first detect your presence. there would be a survival horror element involved in knowing how to avoid encountering them before you are strong enough to kill one. You could set up traps or distractions to keep them busy and use the darkness to your advantage by not lighting the torch)

Anyway have a nice day. Blizzard is now activision. The top talented guys need to make my idea into a reality. Do what capcom was attempting to do with Deep Down and innovate. Don't stagnate. In fact they could start putting in deep stories: you play a guy who was bitten by werewolf and slowly you go berserk and decide before you turn fully evil, this is your final quest: to kil as many things as you can while you still have some self control over the disease. There will be no happy ending for you. There is only trying to have the highest bodycount in the adventurers guild who rejected your application. The suicide mission is your best chance to make your mark before simon belmont comes along to kill you after he is dealt with dracula. (yes you are given a time limit before the religious guys send their monster hunters to kill you, but if you kill the right enemy the curse is lifted and disease removed supernaturally so going at high speed gives you better ending - ie you can kill the hunter, loot his body and come out alive and live normal life*)

*so there IS a happy ending if you're GOOD at killing at high speed

[GameHED]

Yong being bribed by the big boys now: (proof he has become a radar blip for the reptilians and will be sent an illuminati invitation to join their club)

Soon he'll be cloned, the original will be killed, and Yong will suddenly turn into Angry Joe and start reviewing movies and shit that has nothing to do with games or issues that are angering fans. If I were him: do what ACG does. Buy the product and just give the one they gifted to you to your audience as a prize in a competition.
This way you maintain your reputation as cynical totalbiscuit replacement and everyone wins.
Benefiting from bad games gets you onto the deepfreeze.it website.
This was the doing of the SJW so they can manipulate you later imo. It's like marrying a manipulative person who wants to enslave you. They will manipulate into things with sex to get the victim hooked on the drug, then slowly deny giving it as a way to control your behavior through blackmail techniques to keep the victim trapped into doing things to get it.
You've seen what happens to the marine in Aliens when the Xenomorph mates with human by placing an egg in its throat. It grows from the inside, burst out of the stomach to kill the host and uses the human DNA to adapt to the human's environment by stealing the human form to survive in that environment to prey on more humans and feed off of them.
Yong is being corrupted. (or maybe it's a troll video and he did actually buy it, and this is a test to make the Kotaku guy angry since he was blacklisted lol. I wouldn't rule it out. The effect of doing that is to say: "see I'm part of the industry like you and can be important you condescending prick. otherwise why are they bribing me like the rest of you guys if I wasn't relevent you smug jewish cunt" )

The lone wolf youtuber can not be disrespected by the "game journo/corporate shill" from now on as more little kids go to streaming videos for opinions now. The people have spoken: corrupt SJW and feminist are jealous of the competition and scared of them. IF you are like ninja in fortnite and millions of little kids want to grow up and be as good as you at the games, (and be the next youtube celebrity) your opinion holds more sway over games than the corrupt game journo who has to suck the dicks of the industry. Streaming is a way to make money now you stupid SJW. Get used to it. Kids like men with skill who can own others in games. Not people talking down to them and shoving politically correct views down their throat. You simply are not COOL. Being cool is a science. Being honest relies on sticking your neck out for others and to maintain street cred with the people who buy these fucking things and worried about getting ripped off. Can you do that? If not, then you will not be relevant anymore. People have gotten much smarter than in the past when print magazines in the 90s was all people had to go to for guidance on what to buy or avoid.
If we can expose the fakeness of these SJW we can clean up the critic scene. After totalbiscuit there needs to be a guy who can replace him with the same cynicism who isn't a raving mad lunatic like Francis that screams into the microphone. Anger is ok if justified. But we need calm guys with cold reason and logic to point out when you are getting a bad deal. Those are the guys SJW fear because they can't label you as a manchild throwing tantrums in hopes of discrediting you.

I've studied the fake gamers for a whole now so it's getting easier to warn against them. They should send these SJW losers donations out of pity not because people trust them. They are like homeless beggers trying to feed off genuinely productive people to leech audience from them by coming onto the channel. (it's an old trick)

[GameHED]

Fallout 76 sales doing bad:

They should rethink what genre of game they targeted. Instead of making a minecraft style game with basebuilding they should have made a monster hunter style game where you all wear power armor and hunt giant versions of mutated monsters. (you are the local custom design team specialising in power armor for anti-bioweapon research and need to test your experimental armor on various threats roaming the wasteland and offer your services for bottecaps.) Nintendo tried this with Metroid Federation Force.

Dauntless is what I have in mind but I imagine each suit specialises in resisting damage from different things. Deathclaws would be the poster boy Monster you fight in the fallout world with other experimental biological weapons being the background monsters you fight in the wasteland. (not quite as fast or dangerous but can slowly wear you down before you can get to the boss and find the monster lair) The giant buster swords and massive battlehammer would not look ridiculous in the game since your suit is doing all the heavy lifting carrying these melee weapons unlike in the actual monster hunter series where people look way too skinny to be able to lift oversized weapons. Also the radiation causing mutations gives an excuse for animals and creatures to get so big. (it's just like Godzilla's radioactive origins) In place of Rathalos you have mutated flying lizard with Godzilla's atomic breath.

anyway nobody listens to me. Same thing happened when street fighter 5 forgot the arcade mode. I always have to say "I told you so" and people then ask the mods to delete me from the forums but like Michael Myers I keep getting back up. ho hum....Maybe they'll add my idea into Starfield (but using alien monster)

[GameHED]

Angry Joe finally acting angry again:

of course he bought the $200 edition before launch.

Zach
6 hours ago
Joe you supposedly fight against bad buisness practices and just all a round crap things within gaming, but actively contribute to the problems buy purchasing the 200 dollar versions of the game. The thing you get from them is cheap garbage anyway, that Ive seen cosplayers make better stuff. You gave Bethesda 200 dollars for nothing and now they will see this review and not give 2 shites, because they got your money.

And that's why I unsubbed from him. HE was becoming corporate commander; a character he created to make fun of the greedy corporate executive.

Why the hell don't bethesda just hire modders? never understood that. Anyone who work inside got anything to share there?
Are they just too proud? Jason shiller tell us the truth. I'm sticking to my theory that bethesda didn't really want to make an online game so they deliberately did a crap job so they would have an excuse to only do the single player sandbox stuff.
We know they are the king of the bugs. But these ones are bad enough to consider them placed there on purpose to ensure they don't have to waste energy making survival games.
This is why I think nintendo and bethesda would go well together on a joint project: Nintendo can teach them how to code and polish games, and bethesda can concentrate on world building which is what fans like about their work. A Zelda RPG spin-off game should be done. Link is dead. But his spirit lives inside a crazy wood elf who is guiding him to fight Ganon on Nirn who portaled-in through a magick spell to visit other dimensions. (an orc born with the name Ganon becomes the main protagonist and the real Ganon is hiding somewhere which requires you explore the entire map for clues of his whereabouts to send him back to his home dimension)

[lestat]

Corporate commander knows that most gamers are weak and will crack eventually and give them the money. They'll bitch and moan but in the end they will pay.

With the rise of early access, I feel a lot of AAA companies now think it's ok to release buggy games because we've set precedents where we'll tolerate these bugs to experience the game.

I also love the new practice of releasing to reviewers a game without predatory micro transactions, then after release 2 weeks later they patch them in.

Anyways this game is a dumpster fire, hopefully Joe learns from his $200 mistake.

[Peppermint Lounge]

Apparently there are questions as to the validity of the customer service response but they're definitely sending cheap nylon bags out after advertising canvas bags.

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