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Yep, confirmed my fears with Sony's direction.

Console looks ugly as shit too.

Definitely skipping both this and XSX.

PC + Switch for me
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I thought it looked good.

A lot sleeker than the Series X (not hard, I've taken dumps that are sleeker looking than that oversized power brick).
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klee123 wrote:Yep, confirmed my fears with Sony's direction.

Console looks ugly as shit too.

Definitely skipping both this and XSX.

PC + Switch for me
Everything shown didn't look next gen to me, also throughout the whole stream I kept noticing a lot of framerate issues/drops. Performance of the system looks sketchy, especially since they were really quiet on promising 4k/60fps with everything shown, the 1080p30 stream was a deliberate choice to hide this fact more.

The final console unveil, system looks noisy with poor airflow and kinda ugly.

Easy pass for me.
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GT team needs to ditch this engine, Jesus it's still got PS2/3 level assets in it. :sick:
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Lestat, do you actually play games or just pause every frame and count pixels?
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Seen bigger pictures on a bigger screen now, the disc version looks a bit off, like they forgot about a disc drive and shoved one in at the last minute. Now it looks pregnant.

I wonder how quiet it is vs Series X.
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Looks noisy, poor airflow

Didn’t watch the conference, but did they demo the console, measuring its airflow, heat consumption and noise?

I will catch up on the conference.

Good thing I didn’t wake up early!


Can the console be placed on its side?
especially since they were really quiet on promising 4K/60fps
I don’t understand. They were quite on promising it, so in other words they didn’t say anything about it, unless I missed something?
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I've literally seen the form factor for the first time seconds ago. Typing my initial reaction here. It's surprisingly bold. I would see the mock-ups based on the controller reveal and immediately dismiss them as too garish Sony. Seems Sony were too garish for the mock-up crew. They sure can't get any shit for carrying designs over from the previous gen this time. Will be interesting to see the inside of it, the cooling system, airflow, etc.

Can't say whether I like it yet. I reckon it would look pretty nice on my very large, white stone top entertainment unit.

The games on average, like Xbox, look great. As noted though nothing from the next console reveals is a generation ahead of what we're playing now. That's coming from a PC gamer though. If I were a Destiny 2 PS4 1080p/30fps player, the prospect of moving up to 4k 60fps (which Bungie have confirmed for D2 PS5) would be an awesome upgrade and well worth shelling out for.
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It does look a bit weird where they've put the drive. I also wonder how easy it would be to break those fins off.

Digital only version? Not unless they start selling digital games at reasonable prices (instead of waiting for sales)

How much is a Bluray drive these days anyway? Can't add that much to the cost.

Games look fairly unappealing at the moment. Some definitely a step up but nothing that's a real system seller.

No price yet? Still watching the reveal.
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t0mby wrote:Lestat, do you actually play games or just pause every frame and count pixels?
Someone else posted that on another board, I could see from the video the poor detail/pop in and last gen assets. I don't need to pause frames to notice shit graphics. As a person who spends 2k on graphics cards alone, yes I am a graphics snob and want my eye balls to feast on quality pixels.

You've known me for like ever, it's always been this way.

30fps still sucks balls in the year 2020.

PC looking like a real winner here after todays presentation. MS have nothing to worry about either, they have the power advantage.
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With the design they chose, they went for more style over something sensible like XBS1. I don’t mind it but coming from past Sony consoles they seem to prioritise design over efficiency. Must be a Japanese thing.

So a new Horizon game which is cool. And a remake of Demon Souls that offers a choice between performance and image quality. I have just seen the screens. When I have time I see it in full.
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Gran Turismo hasn't impressed me graphically since the PS1. That was really impressive how they were able to push that hardware. These days it just seems run of the mill.

Honestly there were only two things I wanted to find out today. The price and what the console looked like. I don't really even care about the games yet.
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Yes it can be placed on its side, btw.

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This one caught my attention. Stray. Two-person team apparently. A third person adventure game where you control a cat. My son loves cats. Looks a bit too dystopian for a 5 year old though.
It's releasing on PC too. *adds to Steam wishlist* These console reveals are good publicity for multi plat devs.
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Cool. Thanks Pep.

This looks pretty darn good, can’t see how someone would say it doesn’t look next gen.

Underwater stuff looked interesting and we’re getting some proper water physics this time.

The creature models, like that crab looked CG.
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Compare it Hellblade 2 and there is a big difference.

Nothing shown was on the same level as the UE5 engine reveal, that's just on another level.

Horizon 2 looks like the same engine with PC ultra presets and some improvements.

Honestly I see no reason if you have a decent PC to buy one of these machines right now, completely redundant.
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I thought you didn’t like the UE5 demo?

lestat wrote:sub 1440p dynamic scaling, 30fps. No Raytracing used.

The birds and falling rocks didn't even cast shadows. :lol:

Next gen disappoints again.

Most of what looked good was just the megascans library.

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I guess SSDs in next gen systems will allow developers to use these film quality assets, which was primarily what was on show here.

Still the same old fake, scripted "gameplay".

I thought with better cpus we'd have more dynamic worlds and 60fps would be a thing, we got constant excuses from devs blaming the jag cores for 30fps games.

Hellblade 2 had that nice facial mocap, but it’s hard to compare it to an open world game with lots of simulations going on, many we don’t know of yet.
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The megascans and nanite stuff is true next gen tech, question is if these consoles have enough chops to run it well.

So much of what was shown today was 30fps, I expect new nvidia cards and Big navi to blow these things out of the water.

By the time 2021/22 rolls around, 5nm GPUs will be a thing and again another power bump. So yeah it will be interesting to see how these boxes hold up, right now though I see no immediate compelling reason to get one.
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lestat wrote:The megascans and nanite stuff is true next gen tech, question is if these consoles have enough chops to run it well.

So much of what was shown today was 30fps, I expect new nvidia cards and Big navi to blow these things out of the water.

By the time 2021/22 rolls around, 5nm GPUs will be a thing and again another power bump. So yeah it will be interesting to see how these boxes hold up, right now though I see no immediate compelling reason to get one.
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As for pc tech catching up within the first year, that's the norm but I bet you can't build a PC with 2013 tech and run half of what's been released in the current year as good as consoles can without dialing something down but if you want to spend $10k every 7 years on gfx cards, ram, monitors, HDDs etc then power to you. Each to their own.
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It looks impressive but it also looks stupidly expensive. I really want to play Demon Souls remake, always liked it on PS3. Still waiting for the other shoe to drop.
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Console looks sexy as hell.

Will watch the official videos in 4k 60fps later tonight. Just watched the GT7 trailer in 4K...yeah that looks good. Real good.

Will buy a PS5 for sure, Xbox no thanks as I already have a godlike PC.
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The music alone has me sold for this game. Jim Guthrie is fucking awesome.

I haven't watched that much of the reveal. I like the look of the console though.
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Higher quality vids look sooo much better than the pixelated messes I watched this morning.
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PS5 is quite tall.
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Demons souls looked nice! I wonder if it will get a pc port? Both consoles look okay but I think i'm going to stay with pc next gen.
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