360 = 1080p

Pat · Post by **Pat** » 20 Sep 2006 10:53 pm

How many extra RPG dungeons does 40GB provide you with?

jizzlobber · Post by **jizzlobber** » 20 Sep 2006 10:57 pm

uh oh, more good xbox 360 related news?

bring out the damage control boys!

Talez · Post by **Talez** » 20 Sep 2006 11:00 pm

Jizzy McLobber wrote:uh oh, more good xbox 360 related news?

US$170 addon while playing catchup isn't good news. It's a Mega CD in the making.

Madmya · Post by **Madmya** » 20 Sep 2006 11:02 pm

How good was Sonic CD?!?! I can't wait till the 360 does it in 1080p while the ps3 is still downgrading..

mxlegend99 · Post by **mxlegend99** » 20 Sep 2006 11:07 pm

Talez wrote:
Jizzy McLobber wrote:uh oh, more good xbox 360 related news?
US$170 addon while playing catchup isn't good news. It's a Mega CD in the making.

Unlike the PS3, it's optional and the console is available now.

Sony is playing catchup. Microsoft already have a 1080p capable machine on the market

Talez · Post by **Talez** » 20 Sep 2006 11:10 pm

mxlegend99 wrote:Sony is playing catchup. Microsoft already have a 1080p capable machine on the market

a software update this year

I can see how you can easily mix this up with "deployed already". They almost look identical and all.

Madmya · Post by **Madmya** » 20 Sep 2006 11:11 pm

1080p, wow. What an exciting time to be alive! And I owe it all to Microsoft!

Talez · Post by **Talez** » 20 Sep 2006 11:14 pm

Madmya wrote:1080p, wow. What an exciting time to be alive! And I owe it all to Microsoft!

I can hear the jingle already...

"We're spending most our lives living in an upscaler's paradise!"

Madmya · Post by **Madmya** » 20 Sep 2006 11:18 pm

lestat · Post by **lestat** » 20 Sep 2006 11:20 pm

Sony is playing catchup. Microsoft already have a 1080p capable machine on the market

Yep with the new dash update they will have beaten sony at delivering a 1080p capable console to market.

Oh the Irony.

Also now with the component 1080p support, sony will now have to play catchup and allow 1080p over component with the tard ps3.

Talez · Post by **Talez** » 20 Sep 2006 11:20 pm

Twiztid Elf · Post by **Twiztid Elf** » 20 Sep 2006 11:23 pm

Who the hell has 1080p TV's???
Aren't they like $20,000???

Madmya · Post by **Madmya** » 20 Sep 2006 11:24 pm

It doesn't matter! XBOX WINNARRR!

mxlegend99 · Post by **mxlegend99** » 20 Sep 2006 11:25 pm

Talez wrote:
mxlegend99 wrote:Sony is playing catchup. Microsoft already have a 1080p capable machine on the market

a software update this year
I can see how you can easily mix this up with "deployed already". They almost look identical and all.

Re-read what i wrote. They already have a 1080p capable machine on the market.

It might not do it atm, but it's capable of it.

edit
And Sony is not even launching for another 6+ months.

Talez · Post by **Talez** » 20 Sep 2006 11:25 pm

lestat wrote:Yep with the new dash update they will have beaten sony at delivering a 1080p capable console to market. Oh the Irony.

When is that dash update coming by the way?

Also now with the component 1080p support, sony will now have to play catchup and allow 1080p over component with the tard ps3.

Oh fucking jesus don't you even search google anymore?

You won't need HDMI for 1080p games if you can find a television set that fully supports 1080p over component cable, but good luck finding any such TV. They don't appear to exist.

Talez · Post by **Talez** » 20 Sep 2006 11:26 pm

mxlegend99 wrote:
Talez wrote:
mxlegend99 wrote:Sony is playing catchup. Microsoft already have a 1080p capable machine on the market

a software update this year
I can see how you can easily mix this up with "deployed already". They almost look identical and all.
Re-read what i wrote. They already have a 1080p capable machine on the market.

It might not do it atm, but it's capable of it.

So you're selling us on potential now?

lestat · Post by **lestat** » 20 Sep 2006 11:27 pm

Well my dell 2405(1200p monitor) can accept 1080-1200p over vga. So i'm really curious to see if the internal scaler is better than one inside the dell. I'm guessing the internal scaler should be better than the dell. Unfortunately the dell doesn't do HDCP via it's dvi port so vga is more useful to me than 1080p over hdmi, if they enable encryption over the hdmi link.

My plasma has dvi(hdcp) but it's only 1024x768 in native res so 1080p is useless for that panel. It only accepts up to 1080i over the dvi link too.

mxlegend99 · Post by **mxlegend99** » 20 Sep 2006 11:28 pm

Talez wrote:
mxlegend99 wrote:
Talez wrote: I can see how you can easily mix this up with "deployed already". They almost look identical and all.
Re-read what i wrote. They already have a 1080p capable machine on the market.

It might not do it atm, but it's capable of it.
So you're selling us on potential now?

No. We bought the console without expecting that from it. This is an added bonus. The capabilities are increasing upon what was promised.

Sony on the other hand.....

edit
Oh yeah. My TV is only 720p, so i really gain nothing from the PS3 or 360 doing 1080p. My only hope is that i can upscale DVD's on my 360 via component with this update. Else it means shit for me.

This is purely for bragging rights/fanboy arguements

Talez · Post by **Talez** » 20 Sep 2006 11:35 pm

mxlegend99 wrote:No. We bought the console without expecting that from it. This is an added bonus. The capabilities are increasing upon what was promised.

Upscaling 720p? Shit. Something that's pretty much useless for free? Unless you consider the potential for 1080p games.

Oops? Did I say potential again?

Sony on the other hand.....

Have games that implement proper 1080p? Not like it matters because we'll have lestat coming along soon harping about how 1080p is too intense and we're all going to be playing flat, shaderless worlds.

Talez · Post by **Talez** » 20 Sep 2006 11:38 pm

lestat wrote:Well my dell 2405(1200p monitor) can accept 1080-1200p over vga. So i'm really curious to see if the internal scaler is better than one inside the dell. I'm guessing the internal scaler should be better than the dell. Unfortunately the dell doesn't do HDCP via it's dvi port so vga is more useful to me than 1080p over hdmi, if they enable encryption over the hdmi link.

Thankfully the 2407 does HDCP over DVI. Maybe time to trade the 2405 in? Probably only 300 bucks or so if you get a decent price for the old monitor.

lestat · Post by **lestat** » 20 Sep 2006 11:44 pm

I'll see, I'd be keen for an upgrade if there was a significant improvement in response times on the newer model. Also I'd like to wait and see if hdmi 1080p does actually work on the 2407 first before considering an upgrade. It would be good if they release a model with a hdmi port, cause currently i use the dvi for pc input, so i'd have to get a dvi switch.

Talez · Post by **Talez** » 20 Sep 2006 11:52 pm

Of course it'll work. HDMI can be converted to DVI with a 5 dollar converter. The actual video stream is identical, you just swap the video lines to the appropriate places on a DVI-D port.

lestat · Post by **lestat** » 21 Sep 2006 12:05 am

I know technically it should work Talez, but they've had a lot of problems/bugs with the 2407, i'd like it verified first before considering it. It would be good actually if they just disabled HDCP for gaming and only enable it when required by movies.

Talez · Post by **Talez** » 21 Sep 2006 12:08 am

It is disabled for gaming. If HDCP isn't enabled it falls back to an unencrypted link. If ICT is enabled then it'll downsample a BD movie.

Seraph · Post by **Seraph** » 21 Sep 2006 12:08 am

Yeah, the last thing you'd want to do is give consumers a choice.