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Very tempting but still not ready to throw the time at it. And I'm still bitter that my shiny ships, the main reason I played, look much less shiny now.

I am indeed quite interested in the market game now as well though. I hauled a half-filled Bestower out of lowsec in those free days, made a lot, but kept running out of sell orders. Are you running into that problem?

Sounds like we are both the lucky recipients of someone else's abandoned corp heh. Mine ... something to do with Nyan Cat I think, and is based in 0.1 space Mamet. It was put there as a reaction to Mamet being my ratting hole, so that's nice for me.

Good to hear you're back into it. I imagine I'll join you soon enough. Actually I have a couple of RL friends who play it too.
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Yes. 45 orders is my max at the moment. When Hacking V is finished I plan to train some trade skills. I was considering buddying myself a trading alt, or dual training one on my main account. Think I'll stick with my main for now. I don't want to go full hardcore with multiple accounts + alts. I need to grab Accounting and Broker Relations books. Margin Trading no biggie as I'm not fussed dumping whole buy order values in escrow.

4 people took me up on Quafe Zero, btw. 8 mil passive income today so far.
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Quick update. Working Punchanella's skills well. Occupying high sec mostly for now with level 3 missions and exploring proving most lucrative. I have sufficient standings to run level 4 security missions with a couple of corps now. I've ventured into low sec but haven't engaged anything. Scouting only thus far. I'll be flying into low/null soon though c/- a exploration/salvage Cheetah + covert ops cloak with a view to seeing what I can find/open. My recent time has been spent building skills and sufficient wealth so as to mitigate losses.

Today I was scanning down sites and found a 4/10 DED plex. Thought I might as well as they can be quite profitable. This one turned out rather well as I acquired the following...

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So that's my couple of covops fits right there. :)
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Nice, quick hundy. As always, I say moar lowsec. Highsec felt like low money to me, but that's considering frigates only I admit.
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Highsec L3 security missions are turned over quickly in a battlecruiser (Hurricane) and the ISK is pretty good ie: bounties, loot, salvage. ISK per hour is apparently comparable to L4s. That said I avoid blowing up Amarr and Caldari ships to maintain standings. I can do L4s now but will hold off on plonking for a battleship at this stage. Lowsec awaits. Waiting for my cloaky salvage explorer Cheetah buy orders to be filled as I type.
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Resubbed!
But it's kind of a test to see how much I even play. Still, back to mooching around the stars complaining about everything. :)

Edit #1 -

Made 50 mill sitting in station unloading stuff that never sold.
Slicers back up to 20 mill I see.
I put some Gallente skill on the burner, might go a Dram.

Apparently the next update is getting Inty buffs... badly needed imo. I wasn't impressed when AFs not only got some significant buffs and a slot, but got a MWD buff... decreasing the need for interceptors. Its bad enough that my Malediction no longer does the one thing I trained for it for (looking shiny). It would be nice if it could at least do something useful.

Here's that SoE ship... Is this the only pic you've seen Pepp?

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The best thing about it is it won't be impossible to see in the darkness.


Edit #2 -

Oh my god.
That leftover corp I'm in.... Concord has billed me 4 million every month since I stopped playing!! ARGH! Gotta laugh at the sad reality of being taxed in a videogame while you were "out of the country".


Edit #3 -

Ok with a lot of toying around with CPUs, rigs and implants, my new Slicer can squirt out a tasty 301.3 DPS, and I'm sure I've never pushed a Slicer over 300 before. I know, EFT warrior and all that, but it's for ratting anyway so being so systematic is worthwhile. And sure everyone is against stacking after the 3rd penalty (I'm using four heat sinks and a rig), but I'm a big believer in squeezing out every drop and looking for every approach. If two more heat sinks add 11% to an already large total (which is 40% of the base DPS really), I'm happy to pay for that 11%.

The fit isn't totally tight, but it's the best I could do with a pure DPS focus. I can't get a bigger number without stupid-expensive faction mods and implants. The guns can't be improved. Implant-wise, just 3 more DPS would cost 14 mill. So far, the entire fit costs 10 mill... that's not terrible to be honest. Heck it's less than the ship. I'm hoping to, one day, beat that record of 1444.4 damage in one volley from the ol' Slicer.

Ratting battleships in 0.1 space with a civilian shield booster. Just the way I like it. 8)

(1 hour later I'm going to be in tears :lol: )
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Cha ching!

After a lot of sorting things out and some safe practise, I was back ratting away in low sec. One person dropped in on me, no big deal, took off.

After several battlecruisers and only 1 battleship, I get another battlecruiser rat... Except wait a minute, 1.75 mill bounty on a BC? Ok I can take him. Mofo scrams me, but no web so whatever and we pew-pew at each other. I was a bit worried though yes, because he had a bit of a tank and there I am scrammed in 0.1 space for however long this would take. I can outrun this guy if need be but if a tackler drops in and webs me, gweh.

Ok so he assplodes, and drops a 31 million ISK tag. :D I think that's the best thing I've ever landed. And the highest bounty I've seen on a rat too.
Yay!


Edit -
Almost stuffed up taking 4 BCs, too much switching orbits which the game doesn't handle in the way you'd think of as common sense. But hung in there, and am pawing through the wrecks when the overview starts flashing. I didn't even remember how to apply overview settings, so I had just slapped "If it's a player, make it flash" on everything. Thank God I had remembered to do at least that... halfway through my belt runs.

Warp warpwarpwarpwarpwarpwarp. He's within 5kms and already I've got the yellow targeting icon appearing from him. Enyo. Don't know what that is, whatever. Warp picks up (no thanks to CCP for ruining the cool warp sound) and I'm safe.

Enyo. Mother frigging AF with all dem AF buffs, very much there to kill me. Literally 6 guns' worth, plus a launcher, plus a drone (which he had already launched), on a frigate. A strong Enyo can put out 500 DPS I'm told. Mofo would have chewed me to pieces if he'd got a web on me. Already inside 5kms. Would have been f***ed.

Knowing how long a lock takes, it's funny to think that I lived either because I didn't take 3 more seconds to react, or, he didn't have, or derped up in applying, a scram. Likely the 3 seconds I think.
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Welcome back. Yes that's the only image I've seen of the SoE cruiser. There's a frigate too which is slightly less impressive than the cruiser. Heh, ratting in lowsec in a frigate - that's the spirit. :up:
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I've configured my Overview pretty substantially. Multiple tabs for PvP, drones, PvE, etc. HIDEOUS user interface but once done it's beyond invaluable. Should've had my PvP tab up when in Jita most recently.
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Lulz... just scored another 30 mill ISK tag from ratting. :D Exactly the same situation, except this was my very first rat of the night.
Not to mention that when I logged in tonight I was 45 mill richer.

*splashes ISK around*


EDIT -
... Just found another one!

This one was a little more eventful; he was sitting next to a rock which means my orbit was going to get screwed up, which it did. I tried going back out and switching to long range ammo, but was worried about the time that was taking to break his tank. So I switched back to the heavy close-range Conflaguration crystals, changed orbit again, and despite trying to guide the ship manually the flight back in still meant getting dropped well into armour. This is something I hate having to get used to... being invincible 99% of the time, and then losing half the ship's total in 10 seconds and having to tell myself "It's ok, this is normal, keep going."

Still, I've killed three rats and been playing for maybe 20 minutes, and made 65 mill. The other rat was a 1.1 mill battleship who dropped about 3 mill in loot.


:D :D :D




EDIT AGAIN ---

W.t.f... ANOTHER ONE!!

I have attacked 4 rats since I logged on and 3 of them have dropped 30 mill! Heck the worst one (4 mill in bounty and loot) was the usual best I ever hope for!

$_$ $_$ $_$




Edit #3

And another one. Got hustled out of my system by a Firetail (Nancy Duval for my own note) hunting me down. I was lucky too, I hadn't been paying attention for about 5 seconds. As soon as I noticed I just spammed warp to anything, but I'd say I only lived because he had warped in 30km away from me. So I went to the neighbouring system, where I just found tonight's fourth 30mill. ...
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Nice haul made more excellent by no losses. :up:
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I had a poke through the new AF/dessie options, seeing if there was anything that might outshine the Slicer for damage output since the rebalancing.
The following comparisons are with identical skills; my Amarr and Minmatar skillage is literally exactly the same. For everything I tried, I basically fit the heaviest guns with the heaviest ammo then as many damage mods and rigs as could possibly be fit and fly. This typically means using a Civilian Shield Booster, which sounds stupid but is completely practical - been using it tonnes.

Slicer - 300 DPS.
Firetail - Falls quite a bit short of the Slicer's DPS, at a quarter of the range with impossible tracking.

Coercer - 475 DPS at half the price of the Slicer.
Thrasher - Less damage output than the Coercer, at a quarter of the range. Terrible tracking again. Very, very roomy fitting, but it can't be converted to DPS. (Really... what happened to the Thrasher? Did it lose a low or something?)

Wolf - Surprisingly weaker than the Slicer, unless at an impossible range with impossible tracking. In flight, the Slicer actually hits harder than the Wolf. o_O Was not expecting that.
Retribution - The Amarr AF for DPS, but unless I up my AF skill it is literally a second-rate Slicer.


I mean, we know the Minmatar ships typically work in falloff, but wow. The Slicer and Coercer are out-gunning them before even challenging optimal, with better tracking to boot. For the crap we (you) give them, lasers definitely have the advantage of range with DPS. And this is only considering Conflaguration - the short range stuff. Scorch - the long range crystal - is known for being stupidly strong with very long range.

The only real downside is the complete absence of kinetic and explosive damage. The Slicer is cap stable with everything on. The Coercer is still a pain with cap and speed issues. I can get 15 minutes out of it with the shield booster turned off, but its slowness means - for the ratting I do - I will definitely be getting hit a tonne more.


Hearing a lot of praise for the Gallente AFs but I'm a ways off flying them. Too many level Vs in my skills already. :/
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I found a few more of those tags yesterday, and it turns out that I've made 300 million ISK in 4 days of not-intense playing. I'm quite surprised... just all those tags adding up with the flow of bounties and the loot I just keep selling. I only bother looting what's worth the time clicking. So yeah... stupidly ISK-rich for the first time. Now I feel disillusioned, and suddenly "... now what?"

Honestly I don't want to leave frigates. Shipping up isn't really a motivator because they aren't nearly as safe. Ratting in low sec is only possible in a frigate. I've had about 6 people drop in on my parade, but I just get out too quick for them. I even started stealing if I find things to steal; who cares if the entire game can attack me now, I am just no longer phased. I'm in a frigate, I will get out. It's kind of god-like. So the thought of weeks going into cruiser skills only to lose that safety... eh.

And then interceptors with their upcoming buffs... did you know they are going to completely ignore bubbles? They really will be untouchable. You could fly an interceptor around null like a god.

I have put some time into Gallente frigs, but I don't know what to do with skills now really.

Time to get back into RvB I think.
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Joined RvB, totally fumbling around, my overview isn't even ready but haven't had time to really do anything. So I just fitted a nice flighty tackler and joined the fleet.

And totally blew my moment, doh! There was a instance where we needed tackle, right then, right there, and I was there. Forgetting how exactly you activate modules before lock, so I totally threw away a kill we all had. Dohhhh. Some of the guys on comms were really "Xenial, what happened?" They were forgiving though, so that's nice, but god dammit. It would have been a little hero moment, like that point I got a long, long time ago on a Wolf in RvB.

But no. Herpity derping up the buttons.

The FC was cool, not a hugely eventful fight but some things going on and the FC made sure it didn't drag out. One moment of note was that when an enemy appears out of range but on grid, all alone, we know he's bait or wanting to force us to agress or something, so we do nothing and let them float out there like scavengers.

But last night I realised some of the new ships change that. A Tornado appears over 100km away, and one of us gets alpha'd. One-shotted. I could only panic; absolutely nothing I could do except hope he didn't pick me next. Fortunately he just had a good laugh in local and warp off again. Funny stuff.

My internet situation is fixed up now too, so that's good. I just moved house as well.
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Heh it was a Tornado that got me in Jita. I was flying a Jag.
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Actually a Tornado is something I wouldn't mind sinking skills into, as it features my most important criterion on a ship: the looks. Those battlecruisers sound fun too, different to the norm with their huge guns and huger range. Plus I really could use the incentive to get back into Minmatar.


Pepp I like you're sinking some skills into hacking and the like. Purely because it means I can catch up with you in the combat areas. :D
I just put 2 weeks into Level V Tech 2 Small (only) Pulse (only) Lasers (only), and I have to admit that was a really stupid waste of 2 weeks' skills.
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Archeology V training at the moment. :D This will complete my Cheetah T2 exploration fit. A nice box to have ticked. I’ve recently remapped to get through combat/gunnery/navigation skills quicker though. I also have a head full of new ‘standard’ implants. +4 for all. All my important (minmatar important) speed, agility, navigation skills are at IV or V.
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I had totally forgotten about attributes implants, and I have none so I must have been podded somewhere back then.

I scored 2 bronze something-or-other tags for 100K. They go for 4 million each. :) I need to get this money into something that makes more money. Any tips on that, apart from placing orders and hoping things swing the right way? Having said that, it was a lucky find I guess to find an item with a 4mill gap between buy and sell orders.
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Gap trading is the go but it's pretty time intensive. Hot trade items require micro managing your orders to remain top of the pile. Researching trade regions helps. For example Stacmon is a pretty active trade hub. Being on the edge of lowsec I've sold inflated cloak modules there after buying them for cheap at Dodixie.
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The SOMER Blink ship gifting controversy. It made me look into SOMER Blink. Seriously, the depth of Eve is astounding, as is the ongoing drama. I love it.

For anyone spectating an Eve corporation has built an in-game lottery that's generated a tonne of business. CCP thanked them with a bunch of rare ships. That correspondence leaked, the community were outraged. Check SOMER Blink's website to get an idea of the scope of their operation.

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Podded by some of RvB's war targets trying to dock at Jita. I've now learnt that warping to docking is not as 100% safe as I had thought, unless you have a docking bookmark set up. Then it's apparently always safe.

Also got my cheap ship assploded by being tackled due to the uncloack timing being pretty sloppy. I was jammed before I could tell I was uncloaked. So something I learnt from too.

Woke up in Amarr station, with my rather profitable old Slicer waiting there for me. Undock, more of RvB's war targets. Legion and a Tornado sitting on undock, put the Slicer straight into half armour, then warp kicked in. Good thing they didn't have scrams, I wouldn't have been able to dock in time.


Sadly, RvB isn't half of what it once was and many of the RvBers have acknowledged this. I had thought it was just the time zone change, but nope. They've just had a real decline in numbers. When I first got into RvB it was always complaints about Reds camping the undock, or everyone upshipping too much. Now it's like, if only. So since I'm only finding myself in fleets sometimes, that search for a fight for a long time, that lasts a very, very short time, I guess I'll leave RvB.

I'm also feeling really disillusioned with Eve's combat in total. There's just a lot of all-or-nothing going on that I'm tiring of.

Fleet battles are basically nonsense when your fleet is mostly small ships. Every fleet battle is simply a matter of whether the enemy FC calls you as primary or not. Nothing you fitted matters, nothing you do matters.

I'm not really fully supportive of the nature of tackles either. I know that if I tried saying that on the Eve boards they'd scream blue murder, but the fact is that survival is about avoiding, not escaping. It's like the autopilot problem; instead of autopilot making kills more likely with its warp-to-15km, the only thing autopilot does is make everyone not use autopilot, and the game is worse for it.

Similarly, you can't escape a fight once it's started, which might sound hardass, but all it means is that probably thousands of fights every day simply aren't starting in the first place. If you get tackled, you either blow up the attacker or say goodnight. If the mechanics of survival were transferred away from session timers, gate cloaking, jump-on-contact, bubbles and docking timers and instead implemented in the fight, then that could be thousands of fights that people are escaping, thus playing, instead of never starting.

But as it stands, if you're in a frigate in lowsec, you're invincible. If you're not, and you're solo, all it means is you leave lowsec.
Meanwhile nullsec is a ghost town until you get caught in a bubble, and then you die.

So all this does is ask who has the biggest blob.

One-on-one PvP is either an arranged fight, which is boring, or the hunter wins, which is again PvP scanning, not PvP spaceships.

Fitting a ship is a beautiful game of balancing at least 6 factors. So much to pick and choose, and I love the market side of it too. And then, blap, it's all over. Though I admit this is a frigate thing.


Just need a lot more ISK. For bigger ships. Which get tackled easily. Which brings it to the truth that if you want to enjoy PvP, more than just being a T1 tackle that keeps dying, I think you need a billion ISK.
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I avoid Jita. Lesson learned on that one.

Having moved into a structured corp I'm seeing, well, structure in how PvP is administered and executed. I'll be flying my first op with them soon. Corp ops typically comprise cruisers and BCs although new members can fly frigs, either their own or those the corp supplies. This corp doesn't allow can flipping, ninja looting, high sec camps/ganking or other such stuff so all the fun occurs in nullsec, war decs notwithstanding.
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The corp I've joined is recruiting too if you wanted to look into, Deef. Very impressive. Full logistics support, WH, empire, 0.0, alliance ops. Nothing mandatory though.
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What space is it in exactly? Anywhere near Amarr?
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