Eve Online

[Peppermint Lounge]

Been a social butterfly of late so have only logged in to keep the training queue ticking over. The sooner we can do that on a phone client the better.

[Deef]

Is there any word on them actually doing that? I'm under the impression that they have no intention of allowing any actual game manipulation from anything but the in-game tools. Are there any apps of any kind that allow out-of-game control in Eve?

[Deef]

Dammit. -1 Bestower.

"Yeah I should be fine with just the 3 stabs. I could dock and put on the 4th, but I'm too lazy."

I was trying to take the short route to Blue HQ, that's how I ran into my gatecamp of 2. Doh, really would have made it if I'd just had put the 4th stabiliser on. Not a huge loss though; it was carrying my entire stock of mods lol, but it wasn't carrying any ships or any precious loot. I had only just left Dodixie main station fat with all my pricey trash. I'm 45 million richer so far tonight; another 40 million still sitting in sell orders.

The bugger is, I need to get through that gate. Hope they're gone.

Yeah I decided I'll return to RvB; sorry guys, just the EU thing. Pain and particularly Gare have been good for ratting. I'm actually quite disappointed to see that Blue HQ has not a single 0.1 system nearby.

I was spamming warp but they did lock my pod too. Demanded 10 million ISK, I said fine, and.. then he said go home (?) and lifted the web. Guess I wasn't worth it or something. I hopped through the gate as soon as I got in range, no podding, no ransom paid. Just a Bestower and 4000m^3 of stuffs.

Oh well take two.

Later: No dramas, but didn't have the nerve to go and claim my wreck lol. Just fly past it, still not looted, heart of stone. *tear*

[Deef]

I'm actually enjoying belt ratting to much to join RvB! Damn, backflip much. It's just because I'm still new and poor enough to think it pays off nicely. My wallet is richer than evar, plus it's easy to fit PvE ships. I have totally been sucked into the part of Eve I was not at all interested in.

Instead, I finally got me a Civilian Afterburner and thus was able fit another Heat Sink II on my Crusader (moar DPS). Upped my Interceptor skills so tracking isn't an issue, and bought some new Conflag (moar DPS) and got some rigs finally (MOAR DPS). Then instead of hanging around RvB space I looked up which rats respond best to my lasers. Sansha. (MOOOOARRRRRR DPS1!1)

Obviously the Civ AB means there is a big trade off for speed, and I have played with every tweak I can think of between guns, rigs, heat sink and overdrives. I am pleasantly surprised to see that ultimately, the underdog Crusader can indeed out-punch the holier-than-thou Slicer, no matter what you fit. The trade off isn't worth it, no denying that, due to the huge 80% drop in speed and 50% drop in range compared to a Slicer. But I'm happy, because I'm not flying a Slicer. I love the ship; all the praise it gets is indeed warranted, but boy I am still so cut about losing my last one and almost losing this one to Snip King that I just feel so much better flying around in something that isn't 20 million for the hull alone. The Slicer still doesn't register as disposable to me, however a Crusader, whose insurance actually pays out more than half the ship for some reason, only costs effectively about 6 mill. Plus it is shiny, which rewards me for my hard-earned interceptors skill training, and it is quite unique to see around the place. So after all that, it may plod along at rubbish speeds for a ceptor but I am happy to have something that is shinier, rarer, and cheaper than a Slicer, yet is still the hardest hitter as well. It's really quite satisfying.

Yeah it does get kicked around more than usual thanks to taking twice as long to catch up to targets, but fortunately, and I suppose naturally, the damage dealt by Sansha isn't so brutal on the Amarr hull. I think. I'm still deciding if I'm liking the slower speed, but I'm definitely liking the way it tears the rats apart.

I just took down a True Sansha something-or-other. 800K bounty in no time at all. Now that's pittance in ISK I know, but oh boy he dropped his loot and that cash register cha-ching just goes off in my head and I'm all $_$. Again. I am seriously turning into a carebear. Two True Sansha mods, a True Sansha crystal and a True Sansha dogtag. My Dodixie sales are still going really strong and I'm a good 80 million richer since the last time I did.. anything.. and now I find this.

I just snagged 60 mill from one rat. This ship be blingin', yo.

Off to kill some moar.


Oh I took a little trip in nullsec. I learnt that you can find 7 cruisers at once there. And that I can fit a Rifter that tanks Gurista damage laughably well, but can't scratch a nullsec Gurista battleship. And that Guristas like their missiles therefore speed tanking is dumb. So I got bored of Rifters and projectiles and Guristas all of a sudden and went back to my lazors. For what I'm doing - damage-focussed ratting in a frigate that has tracking and cap bonuses - the lasers are working a treat with none of the mess of projectiles, not to mention the luxury of having Scorch on standby, loading instantly.

Enjoying the carebear pew pew.

[Deef]

New best; 750 damage in one volley. My little non-intercepting interceptor beast.

[Deef]

Well that's Slicer number 4.

I had decided to bring it down after all. With a few days training, a tech 2 rig was the key to a new fit and a CPU implant to make it work. Barely lower DPS than the Crusader's best but much faster and double the range.

Took it out, went on a long belt run, made 33 million ISK. Not bad, almost as much as the ship cost, dammit. At least Hercy paid for half of it. (Thx)

790 damage in one volley from a rat when I should have known better. I was low on HP but decided to risk it because my cargo wasn't yet full. Stupid. Wasn't even spiraling in.


I love how an insured 10 million ISK Crusader hull gets 5 million ISK returned, but a 23 million ISK Slicer hull gets a slap in the face 200K. Nothing. It's not just expensive, it has practically no insurance to offset the splurge. Should be called unsurance. Or pointlessurance. It's the precise reason I was getting used to the Crusader instead, and all this time I still haven't lost it. But lesson still not learnt it seems; as soon as I get the new Slicer out, bam, dead first night. With a 10 million ISK rig at that.





I don't see PvE ISK-making being any faster than this for a frigate. Once a chain is at its best, I'll get 4 battleships downed between bounty updates and the loot easily doubles that. I don't think a slower, half range Crusader can really be quite as effective, but at least one tired screw up doesn't cost hours of work. Since it's Eve there's no exp gained, nothing.

I tried asking around for better ISK making ideas for someone with no drones or cruisers, but people couldn't seem to get past the idea that the below fit isn't asking about PvP, or drones or cruisers...


Medium Pulse Laser II x2

Afterburner II
Civilian Shield Booster

Heat Sink II x3
Fourier Transform I Tracking Program
Expanded Cargohold II

Small Energy Collision Accelerator II
Small Ambit Extension I


The shield booster and cargohold are both very useful pieces, not to be taken at face value. The tracking and rigs could go but they're all a case of fitting for a lack of anything better. I can't fit a Tracking Enhancer II and I'm not sure if it makes a large or small difference yet.
The T2 rig certainly can, and probably should, be switched for a T1 el-cheapo, but I am trying (and failing) to believe in a principle that if you're fighting pre-planned NPCs, you shouldn't die, ever.

In EFT it does 237 DPS with conflag and in reality it simply flies in, orbits and speed tanks, loots. If you're chaining battleships, it will take the most beating while you're looting, so I adapted to looting while orbiting. You have to unload loot before repairs typically, so you can keep this going forever and once a chain forms properly you are basically chewing through the largest NPC bounties. I couldn't find my Slicer wreck last night, and passed 5 battleships in a row looking for it.

Rocks are an issue. If you bump into one it's ok usually, if there are too many around you can just manually orbit. If you get stuck for 5 seconds at low speed you're in danger and for some reason the Slicer seems much more susceptible to this problem; I never got it with the Crusader. Suppose it's just coincidence.

Any ideas for faster ISK with a frig?






Unrelated - Things to do in Eve:

[Deef]

Some new news.

Station and turrets:
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=2402" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Fonts:
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=2401" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

To be honest, I was totally getting used to the new turret icons. No doubt the originals were better for clarity, but I was definitely getting an eye for the differences. Eh well. Icons are better from a design standpoint.

Ship spinning, good.

Font improvement, good. Good as in, years overdue.

And I don't know about the cyno thing but I hear a lot of people are happy to finally hear some news on it. I hope they aren't disappointed with the results.

No engine trails news.



Oh and there's another 1000 AUR to not combine and spend on nothing on its way.



And I can now fly Minmatar and Amarr AFs and 'ceptors. Finally.

[blackhuey]

Ship spinning good. Fonts very good. CCP is clearly reacting to all the community and press pressure to give Flying In Space some attention. It's just disappointing that it took this sort of rage to get even low hanging fruit looked at.

Looks like a Wolf/Jag roam coming up soon?

Bruce jumped ship for Kadavr Black Guard, but still has a clone back in Reynire so we can roam.

[Deef]

Yeah agreeing that is is good but also a bit stupid that they get so much praise for fixing things they broke in the first place.
I'm glad about the fonts too but that's another example of something being celebrated that really is just long overdue responsibility. I'm only running 1600x900 and the fonts are too small in Evemail. With no option to change them I feel sorry for people playing in higher resolutions.

In general, the game grows really slowly compared to the demand (not to be confused with need) for it to grow. There is so much they plan to do, but the timescale hears things like "3 years possibly". Meanwhile all the little things to add or change crawl along at a snail's pace and this is compounded by the way every patch really does seem to invent more bugs than it fixes, the subsequent patches making things even more painful.

Moan moan moan. I want engine trails back, and I want interceptors to not be so controlled by the MWD nerf. And I want a UI that isn't from the dark ages.

Edit - New highest volley: 770.2

Edit 2 - zomg: 986.3. From a frigate.

[Deef]

I'm now able to fly all Minmatar and Amarr frigates. Heaps to play with now.

I finally did bail from ITTP. I wanted to try Slicer number 5 in some level 3 missions, so headed to Rens since that's where my standings were closest. (In hindsight, yes that was a bit derp since lasers aren't so godly to the NPCs in Minmatar space.)

I asked in local if anyone wanted a Slicer tagging along in level 2s, and long story short, some fledging corp picked me up with promises of tagging along playing light support in level 4 missions for the factions I needed. Basically a few EU guys that don't have squillions of SP.

So this was a good excuse to bust out some new ship! Four mids were preferable so it was a no-brainer. Jag. Finally, first time, etc. Got it, fitted it, all the named gear of course since I can afford stuff now. I liked the nice "we-don't-look-unrefined-and-cheap" sleek blue jets it has. Jumped into a level 4 with these guys, flew it around a bit, painted, webbed, got webbed... got scrammed... gweh.

I came back in a Merlin.

Yes it did cross my mind that I might want to try level 4 support in a cheap ship to start with, but I just dismissed the idea immediately. I wanted to try my new ships god dammit. Indeed I quickly got fed up with the Merlin too simply because it wasn't shiny and expensive enough.

The Jumbuck had flown for a good 7 minutes before being 'sploded but I didn't believe it was really the mission being threatening; I just did something wrong and wasn't paying enough attention on its first flight. So I bought a new Jag and started to refit but then I noticed yet more of that Minmatar ownage; the Stiletto. An interceptor with 4 mids. Sigh. Why must Minmatar be great all the time? >_< The ship is fuuuugly whereas my prettyboat Malediction is pretty, but next to the Stiletto it's just "Wtf is the point?". The off-chance you need an armour-tanking interceptor that fires rockets? I mean ffs Amarr. First, the Stiletto doesn't suck. Second, it has four mids. I'm never going to use the Malediction.

So now I do some support in a Stiletto, own a half-fit Jag, and fly a Slicer around in a place it doesn't belong.

Oh, and overheating the Stiletto's MWD for two cycles costs over 90,000 ISK to repair. -_-

And the Maelstrom looks sweet. I want.

[Deef]

Yes I know no-one even plays anymore; well apart from Bruce appearing online now and then, but I'm just updating for the hell of it. I'm under the impression Brep and Punch, you guys are still skill training but just not playing much lately?

I've gotten into the game more since opening up all the Minmatamarr frigs and switching corp, both of which occurred at the same time. Notable events:

· I lost that first Jaguar (Jumbuck) within minutes. It was my first non-interceptor T2 ship.
· I fitted a Wolf (Work in Progress) for belt ratting and lost that on the second day. I got tackled by a Drake. A Drake. -_- What a noob. The thing is, I was setting a destination for a just-in-case autopilot. While I was doing that a neutral appeared on the overview and I plain and simple did not see him, until he appeared flashing red, ie, I was already scrammed. He held me down while local spiked and I basically got anally violated. It was that bad.
· I fitted my first Stealth Bomber, a Purifier (Pkunk Fury), with intentions of heading back to Amarr space for Amarr belt ratting. I needed cash flow again and the L4 missions weren't delivering. A corpie showed up, changed those plans, and I again took a brand new T2 that I didn't know how to fly into a L4. I did warp out once at least, but again, lost that one within the hour. I had hit warp again, casually, no concern, and watched. And watched, and watched. At no point was I panicking that I might not make it because I had hit warp really early in armour, and it was really not going down too fast. Except for some reason warping took an absolute age, and I 'sploded. This felt like that Incursion pwnage Pepp and I experienced, because I didn't understand. Then I did. Align time: 8 seconds. Now I know; warpy escapes in a Stealth Bomber are not happy fun times. They are warps of the devil and Stealth Bombers really are the least frigate-ish frigates that exist. Even with that slow alignment, this particular warp just seemed to take years until the ship popped.
· I fitted my second Stealth Bomber, a Hound (Elvis the Oil Rig), and joined more L4s. The Hound looks just like an oil rig, you'll notice. This time I was more careful, actually used a cloak between waves, and was ticking all the DPS boxes that the Purifier hadn't been. Namely, the Covert Ops skill, which I've already taken further than my Inty and AF skills. As a result I was actually contributing to the mission! I was well pleased, since with a couple of target painters and my torps I was almost competitive for time to take things down, but I had the huge bonus of not flying like a turd rolling uphill. It got to the point where the others just ignored some NPCs because they couldn't fly the 100km to them, or keep up with the NPC cruiser. Lame, bro. They all actually left and I discovered I could handle three L4 battleships and a cruiser just fine in my little old Hound. Nice. Until I ran out of ammo w.t.f. So I warped to the far-away wrecks and simply started to loot instead, might as well. I kept an eye on those NPCs I'd left lingering, but not my good eye as it turns out. I slowly looted closer and closer until I realised I didn't have a snot of a chance speed tanking anything that was hitting me at 60km, and realised I was aligned perfectly the wrong way. This is what I mean by least frigate-ish frigates - if you're looking for aligned celestial bodies you really have to question what kind of ship you're in. So that got popped too. Looting. -_-

I'm such a noob. Quick recap?
Lost my first Jag in less than 10 minutes.
Lost my first Wolf in less than a day.
Lost my first Purifier in less than an hour.
Lost my first Hound the first time I was flying it.


I did get around to trying belt ratting in a Purifier, but it is indeed very difficult simply because they really are slow ships. Frigging slow. As in, my Crusader with a civilian afterburner will outrun a Purifier with an AB II. And since you have to warp in at 30km when doing lowsec ratting, you need at least 900m/s to speed tank anything, but with these crappy alignment bombers I was instead warping in at 50km to be safe. The results; terribad. After all my noobish losses lately I think it's a bit unfair that this particular Purifier still hasn't died. It deserves to. Ima sell it.

Still haven't touched anything cruiser. Only Destroyers I and Industrials I. I think I'm just trying to carve out some identity here by working all the frigate skills. At the moment things are spreading out a bit - rockets, torpedoes, target painting - so it's not like I'm really specialising that much either. Not to mention the split right down the middle between my Amarr and Minmatar skills. Still no Rockets 5 or Gunnery 5. Sigh. SPEAKING OF, damn rockets really are so weak, it's inredibad.

So my focus of late has been trying to train/fit a Hound that is viable for ratting, and also to find a use for my beloved Malediction, my most shiny and most useless. I still believe it should have been called Contradiction. But the Stiletto isn't getting any prettier so I want to find something that works.

As much as Interdictors are a waste of SP for literally 1 or 2 ships, I might get into a Sabre. And then belt rat with that lol.

YES belt ratting. It's low level scum I know but I made buckets off it. All these T2 ships, just a light shrug when they explode thanks to literally my hundreds of millions made from ratting!

[blackhuey]

I'm definitely still active. I joined the Northern Coalition DOT alliance and we're currently fighting Morsus Mihi and a bunch of other alliances in the Tribute region.

Nullsec is a funny place. You can get the sort of rectal examinations Deef describes in your own backyard, or you can go a dozen jumps in enemy territory and be the only one in local.

I've got a reasonable record since I joined NCDOT. 9 kills, 2 losses. The best kill was definitely the Thanatos carrier which was found by one of our scouts, running an anomaly. The call went out, we all jumped in our bombers and raced the 8 or 9 jumps to take him down before the red reinforcements arrived. Good times.

The Hurricane I lost was on a big battlecruiser roam into Brick Squad space. We ended up fighting on a station, trying to tease a few Morsus Mihi pilots away from the comfort of their dock. This was going peachily. Too peachily. Suddenly... reinforcements. I was primaried immediately (awesome) and even though I broadcasted for and received reps from the logistics straight away, the DPS from the 18 or so red battlecruisers was far too much and I melted. The fight was sort of a draw for the fleets, but a straight ISK loss for me.

We ended up camped into a station in the next system over, where we reshipped into whatever we could buy locally. For me, this was a criminally overpriced scout/tackle Vigil frigate as I couldn't fly a Drake (the only type of battlecruiser available for sale there). The next hour and a half we danced with the growing enemy fleet trying to find an opening to get the fleet out, as we were deep in enemy territory. We made a break for it and streaked off, Morsus Mihi and Brick Squad in close pursuit.

18 jumps or so later, I was safe in Empire along with the whole fleet except for the Sabre, who sacrificed himself by bubbling on the gate to prevent the chasing fleet being able to get a warp. <3 Sabre. So I jumped my trusty Vigil into the pipe to our home system. This is a series of nullsec systems owned by our alliance, and I knew from the intel channels that it was guarded by our allies. On jumping into the first system in the pipe, true to form there was a massive camp of our Russian allies, White Noise alliance.

White Noise are what you would get if you took the residents of an old people's home, mixed them with the residents of a "special school", and gave them all vodka and high powered weaponry. So much fail, yet you just can't stay mad at them 'cause they're adorably clueless. Well they must have been camping that gate for a while and gotten bored, because the second I came out of my gate cloak into a massive wall of warp disrupt bubbles, the entire camp lit me up and four of their most retarded pilots (which is saying something for White Noise) assploded me.

Sanity returned after a bit of shouting in local, and my supposed allies apologised and made it up to me by not assploding my pod. After a snarky "18 jumps in hostile nullsec with a red fleet chasing me, only to be shot by blues" in local, I warned them that there were more friendlies from the same roam inbound and they might want to hold their triggers until they check alliances. Advice they warmly received and promptly ignored, shooting more of our guys and almost starting a full on war. We were actually shipping up into bombers to go and bomb the camp when we were told by alliance leadership to stand down. Grumble.

Last night I took the Sabre out with a corp gang. Apart from finding an enemy Nyx supercarrier ratting anomalies (which our scout failed to probe down before the Nyx could log off) it was uneventful until late. I'd been asked to back-scout, and was catching up to the gang when I got pulled into a drag bubble with a waiting Rupture cruiser and Falcon EWAR ship. I'm 50km off the gate in a bubble, in a ship made of tissue paper, and I'm about to be jammed and cornholed. My support is 2 jumps away and otherwise engaged. What to do.

So I cloaked. Right there in the bubble. Right under their noses, before they could target me. And then I proceeded to slowboat at an impressive 47m/s in a direction I hoped they weren't expecting. They seemed to sit there dumbfounded for a few seconds at the sheer unexpected temerity of my plan, then snapped out of it, launched drones and started trying to find me.

Long story short, the Falcon came within about 100m of decloaking me at one point, but never did. For once my hide and run instinct paid off, and I made it home with my shiny new Sabre intact.

Deef, the Sabre is an awesome ship, though I'm not sure how good a belt ratter it is Still, a 7-gun Destroyer with Tech 2 resists can't be all bad. They tend to be very tight on CPU, so fit up in EFT or EveHQ and get those support skills going. If you ever come out to nullsec, Sabre pilots are in hot demand and you can often get ship replacement from your alliance. Sabres aren't called "flying coffins" for nothing.

[blackhuey]

And this just in - NC. have reset White Noise from non-aggression to non-invasion. So now we can shoot them, so long as we don't take their sovereignty \o/

[Peppermint Lounge]

Punch is still training but I haven't played in a while. Been busy with social stuff and have just upgraded from XP to Win 7 so all my games are not installed.

[Deef]

Love the Sabre story heh. Just "How bout nooo!" *cloak* Yeah I suppose I'll get one. Where the Thrasher loses effective guns thanks to the ROF penalty, the Sabre gets no such punishment and instead a damage boost. That's all I see. Maor DPS, and it's shiny. So I am drawn to it a bit despite it being a bloody destroyer. But if it's faster than a SB, I'm interested.

White Noise shenanigans sound fun.

[blackhuey]

Have you seen this Deef? http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/wens ... lo_PvP.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Specific to the Rifter, but a lot of small-ship general applicability for PvP.

[Peppermint Lounge]

Is ITTP still on? The times I have ducked in I've not noticed anyone on. Others quite likely distracted as I've been.

[blackhuey]

ITTP is still running, but with Brep and Plas both in skill maintenance mode, it's basically just my alts that are active earning money for Bruce to lose in nullsec.

[Deef]

Having a look at that now Huey, thanks. I need to get out of these expensive ships because while I don't mind losing the money, I do mind having to rat it up again.

(Speaking of, damn I had a mammoth chain last night. I quickly stopped looting anything worth under 100,000 ISK but now it's at the point where it's not even worth looting at all, despite the loot typically producing just as much ISK as the bounties. 600,000 ISK module? Leave it. I came back in a Thrasher to collect cans I'd left lying around, and all it was was battleship after battleship, teasing me in each belt. I have to work out some system where loot doesn't waste time.)

What? Oh yeah, Rifters. Stuff Rifters! I'm trying to be more Minmatar than Amarr but how can I when, from 5km away, my Slicer has just ripped out a 1012.8 damage volley. Clean, simple, lasers. 1012.8... damn Slicers are just too good. Amarr would be a waste of a race if they didn't have Slicers imo, unless you like self-contradicting interceptors or assault frigates with rockets and 1 god damn mid-slot.

Well, reading it anyway.



(Edit - 1017.2 now)

[blackhuey]

1 mid for an AF (Retribution) is so unbelievably fail.

[Deef]

I don't mind the idea of the game having such a ship, for the variety basically. There's plenty of other AFs so having one with 1 mid slot is at least something different to experiment with. But Amarr just shouldn't be the race to cop it. Their frigates are already suffering for mids and the other Amarr AF is already dumbed down with roflkets. If anything, it should be Minmatar and the Wolf. Don't get me wrong; that would be a nasty thing to do to the Wolf as we know it, but if I was to support the idea of a 1-mid AF in the game, the Wolf could take it and still be all Minmatar. Just put that extra slot on the highs; it'd be even more fierce. It would only cost CCP about 20 subscriptions, right? Hehe.

On that note, I have now seen how good the Wolf is. Such good resists. The Male(contra)diction with its full armour bonuses comes nowhere near a Wolf at default. Learning that my Slicer (and it's a pretty damn strong Slicer) was not capable of breaking a cap stable Wolf with scorch (therefore it has no winning tactic), and watching a corpie tank an entire anomoly for us, my opinion of the Wolf has gone up.

Last night we were in some anomolies, got an escalation, they got excited, I had to go. A few hours later 3 of them looted over 350 mill, including a Phantasm BPC.

Gunnery 5 done. Yay.

The only problem with this corp is that they like big ships, and thus, are scared in lowsec. I got tired of the L4 missions making less than ratting so I returned to Amarr space in 0.1, and they all followed me! Big head or wot. New corp office and everything. They can deal with lowsec/null and all, they know how stuff works, but yeah they like to live in Tempests and Ruptures and Hurricanes and Cyclones. Hmm, that's literally all of the members. Minmatar much? SO they are totally whoring up the not-red-don't-shoot nature of the local corps, making friends and begging everyone's mercy, and this is killing the PvP threat/fun for me. Knowing that if I have a go at someone my corp will have issues and tissues. Stuff that. I'll have to tell them and all the locals that I consider anyone I see to be fair game. As I expect them to consider me.



Edit - Oh yeah, news from the devblogs. Ship spinning is being returned in 2 days. Hooray. Now let's get excited about something that CCP broke in the first place. And still we have engine trails that aren't as good as they were 4 years ago, and the cynos, and cloaking, and warp tunnels still broken. Rrrr these kinds of things really irritate me. But seriously I am happy to have spinning back. The static image that I use for CQ is just a constant reminder that I'm playing the "poor man's substitute" Eve, while being at the same time much crappier than what I was used to.

I can't wait to see what little nerf they have put in ship spinning that didn't use to be there, and will irritate me more. Like the fitting window camera nerf no-one else seems to have noticed.

[Peppermint Lounge]

I'm back and ready to fly. Game performance is improved since my rebuild to win 7. My default window colours have changed to black but I like it better, I mean Bette. Whatever happened to her?

Speaking of the corp with ITTP seemingly on leave at the moment and my previous corp CEO contacting me I'm in two minds about how to proceed. No stress as I'll be doing some exploring, ratting & missions for now.

Deef if you're on we can play pew pew if you're still ITTP, which as I type I recall you may not be. Or we can jump into a cheap ship and go looking for trouble.

[Deef]

Yeah I jumped ship. We can still always do the can flipping thing though, and just remember not to fleet up this time. But really I don't know how likely it is our hours will cross; it seemed really uncommon before. Bear in mind I'm also all frigates still; got nothing to put up against a Rupture, except probably a Jag I've not even flown.

How are your skills/goals going? I'm on my way to getting the serious cloaking skill so I can warp cloaked in an Anathema - another case of the Amarr ship slightly underperforming compared to the Minmatar but looking about a hojillion times better. Seriously, it looks sweet. And it fits a lot easier. That's in a few days, time to get some serious scanning practise going. My mind is full of ideas about passive targeting and ship scanners and uncloaking on top of some guy with a long range warp disruptor and double tracking disruptors and evilness.

[blackhuey]

I'm up for ninja salvage and can flipping I even trained BlackHuey up to an Orca specifically so I'd have a mobile hangar for pirating ships

[Deef]

You know about the Orca nerf right?