Game file sizes could soon be 70% smaller, bluray am cry.

lestat · Post by **lestat** » 05 Oct 2006 01:23 pm

We've spoken about the negatives already mech, I'm not dismissing them. There are pros and cons to every approach. It's just exciting because a lot of this tech has been spoken about, but finally we are seeing it in practice in real games, not tech demos, that's what i'm excited about.

Here are some screens.

At this stage it's probably the biggest benefit for live arcade games because they have some crazy space limitations. I know epic are very keen on procedural texturing, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them better integrate it into the unreal engine, like they have with speed tree etc.

lestat · Post by **lestat** » 05 Oct 2006 01:42 pm

cool little vid of their image synthesis tech in play.

http://www.luxology.com/whatismodo/imageSynth.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://video.luxology.com/imageSynth/vi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... th-01b.mov

Sonic Jam · Post by **Sonic Jam** » 05 Oct 2006 03:25 pm

Nice and high res, but like almost all procedural stuff you lose out on the art.

mech · Post by **mech** » 05 Oct 2006 03:32 pm

Yeah those textures don't exactly strike me as very exciting.

You probably can't do any real-world type stuff with this, you almost certainly couldn't do something like PGR3 or GT4 with it. I believe you have to create the assets from scratch.

General Chaos · Post by **General Chaos** » 05 Oct 2006 03:39 pm

It would work a treat on storage hungry games like resistance though. BAM!

lestat · Post by **lestat** » 05 Oct 2006 03:44 pm

mech wrote:Yeah those textures don't exactly strike me as very exciting.

I know what you mean.

AgOnNy · Post by **AgOnNy** » 05 Oct 2006 03:48 pm

Hahahaha, this thread is GOLD!!!!!!
Keep it up bitches!!!

GameHED · Post by **GameHED** » 05 Oct 2006 04:21 pm

We can now go back to carts.

DjBigK · Post by **DjBigK** » 05 Oct 2006 04:37 pm

Microsoft set to release add-on 3.5" floppy drive for the 360.

GreyWizzard · Post by **GreyWizzard** » 05 Oct 2006 05:27 pm

yeah, 22GB's of brown!

selfish · Post by **selfish** » 05 Oct 2006 05:49 pm

those textures were dismal lestat
if they were anything other than procedural i would be VERY dissapointed

the hype and how completely you've bought into this is disgusting - these claims are as stupid as anything sony's said in the past

jizzlobber · Post by **jizzlobber** » 05 Oct 2006 05:53 pm

just remember that game is under 50meg, looks good to me!

General Chaos · Post by **General Chaos** » 05 Oct 2006 05:58 pm

One game is a flagship launch title the other is a cheap xbl arcade game. Guess wich one wouldn't have had a huge budget to blow on making game art/textures?

selfish · Post by **selfish** » 05 Oct 2006 06:08 pm

under 50 meg or not, it still looks generic, textures look like crap

Pat · Post by **Pat** » 05 Oct 2006 06:14 pm

GameHED wrote:We can now go back to carts.

Tapes you tech whore. Such a NES fanboy bias!

Texas · Post by **Texas** » 05 Oct 2006 07:07 pm

Ahh the memories... dubbing C64 games on a double tape deck... Cant do that shit with Blu-Ray, hey?

Pat · Post by **Pat** » 05 Oct 2006 07:14 pm

Who said anything about C64? Rubber keyboards and Dick Smith VZ200 FTW.

Sonic Jam · Post by **Sonic Jam** » 05 Oct 2006 07:21 pm

My personal take on this whole thing is it's a god send for the ridiculous size restrictions MS have to use cos they fucked up and splintered the userbase.

Really cutting edge amazing stuff to have textures not look like shit and fit under 50MB.

However as shown in the psat with the technology it generally isn't a good fit for most games because it lacks the unique look you get from an artists texture..

Unless there have been huge advances in designing these procedural textures that I am unaware of it's still a useless tech for _most_ retail games.

Texas · Post by **Texas** » 05 Oct 2006 07:25 pm

Pat wrote:Who said anything about C64? Rubber keyboards and Dick Smith VZ200 FTW.

Oh, you were one of thems kids, eh Pat? Weren't allowed to have the C-64, eh? Bravely stuck up for the VZ in the playground? Explains a lot.

Kids like you had the ST, not the Amiga, and never recovered.

Pat · Post by **Pat** » 05 Oct 2006 07:31 pm

The gloves are off now, bitch. Amiga 500 lasted me a good 8 years I reckon, before it finally packed it in.

Texas · Post by **Texas** » 05 Oct 2006 07:35 pm

Oh, 500. 'sif 500. 1200 thankyou.

Wish I had never sold it. Reminds me - have to go to the family home soon and go thru some stuff - 500+ original C-64 games....

Pat · Post by **Pat** » 05 Oct 2006 07:43 pm

Cunt.

Amiga 500 + 1MB expansion = best system ever.

Talez · Post by **Talez** » 05 Oct 2006 07:49 pm

Sif Amiga 500. 68000 FTL, 68020 FTW!

Plus the A1200 already came with 2 megs of chip RAM.

Peppermint Lounge · Post by **Peppermint Lounge** » 05 Oct 2006 08:08 pm

VZ200 aw yeah. How I loved mine...

Pat · Post by **Pat** » 05 Oct 2006 08:13 pm

We had Attack of the Killer Tomatos, Space Invaders and Pac Man on ours Pep. I think it even came with a book with BASIC programmes you could write to tape yourself (standard at the time I guess). Did you ever get stuck into that?