Street Fighter 2

mech · Post by **mech** » 17 Aug 2006 12:55 pm

See I can compensate - as Sonic_Jam knows - can usually pull off a fireball or a dragon punch, but damn it's much more difficult than it should be. "No probs"? You're in a minority.

lestat · Post by **lestat** » 17 Aug 2006 01:59 pm

With fighters, the dpad is just a bad tool for the job imo. You really need a stick if you want to avoid frustration and be able to pull off 2in1 combos with ease. Especially since this version of sf2 is very fast paced, well faster than i remember it to be.

pilonv1 · Post by **pilonv1** » 17 Aug 2006 04:32 pm

So how's the stick work with SF? I was thinking of buying one for the arcade games. I've read the stick is a bit loose for SF moves though.

Is JB still the best place to get it?

Sonic Jam · Post by **Sonic Jam** » 17 Aug 2006 04:39 pm

Jizzy you must be the only person on all of Games-Ranch, and Gaf, and several other forums I know about.

It's a widespread acknowledged problem with the D-Pad design mate, there are even a number of websites listing various D-Pad mods you can do to improve its response...

jizzlobber · Post by **jizzlobber** » 17 Aug 2006 06:07 pm

actually Lestat is kinda right, pulling off those old combos is difficult, but I had that prob with almost all console pads (saturn d-pad was so nice and loose yet accurate).

Candy Arse · Post by **Candy Arse** » 17 Aug 2006 06:20 pm

The 360 d-pad is fucking garbage! I can't believe MS can go from so good (S-pad) to so bad (360). I'm going to mod my controller and fix the d-pad because I feel like a retard doing what is usually bread and butter stuff in SF2.

BTW I have the game so come challenge and beat me while you can bitches! I'll have to employ ilce tactics to win, fortunately the 360 d-pad is quite happy to accommodate players who wish to sit in the corner charging up sonic booms for three to five rounds.

lestat · Post by **lestat** » 17 Aug 2006 06:42 pm

Candy DOA arcade stick GET!

btw since i was mostly away when sf2 finally came out on holidays, I'm keen to have some games with gr folk, I'll be online later for a quickie if anyone is keen.

mech · Post by **mech** » 17 Aug 2006 06:48 pm

Candy Arse wrote:The 360 d-pad is fucking garbage! I can't believe MS can go from so good (S-pad) to so bad (360). I'm going to mod my controller and fix the d-pad because I feel like a retard doing what is usually bread and butter stuff in SF2.

BTW I have the game so come challenge and beat me while you can bitches! I'll have to employ ilce tactics to win, fortunately the 360 d-pad is quite happy to accommodate players who wish to sit in the corner charging up sonic booms for three to five rounds.

Jizzy McLobber wrote:I think a skilled gamer can compensate, as I said I had no probs with it.

GreyWizzard wrote:A bad tradesman always blames his tools.

You're just an unskilled gamer and a bad tradesman Candy Arse.

jizzlobber · Post by **jizzlobber** » 17 Aug 2006 07:13 pm

I could've yold you that ages ago

Candy Arse · Post by **Candy Arse** » 17 Aug 2006 08:38 pm

Ayrton Senna wouldn't win a GP driving a mini.

Pat · Post by **Pat** » 17 Aug 2006 08:44 pm

The d-pad is fucking shithouse. I wouldnt even trust it to manage charge moves properly ffs.

No wonder they wont put 3rd Strike on the BC list - it would be an insult to the game to have to try and parry with the worst d-pad in history. Hell, even the gamecube dpad is better.

Madmya · Post by **Madmya** » 17 Aug 2006 11:58 pm

Candy Arse wrote:Ayrton Senna wouldn't win a GP driving a mini.

he'd be dead!

Candy Arse · Post by **Candy Arse** » 18 Aug 2006 08:45 am

I played some games with Pilon last night and I'm pretty disappointed by it. I'm on a 1500/256 connection these days, and the experience for me was far far worse than playing SFAC on a 512/128 connection. I couldn't even pull off a single spinning piledriver with Zangief, where normally (as people here who have played me at these games can attest) I can just walk right up and grab someone with it (or a splash with Hugo).

ugh

lestat · Post by **lestat** » 18 Aug 2006 09:13 am

I agree Candy, last night before you got on I played some online rounds for the first time and the net code imo is shit. You could just feel the lag/delay in gameplay, so forget trying to do split second counters.

Also Candy Zangief is screwed in this version, even in the single player with a stick it's extremely hard to pull the spinning piledriver off. I'm not sure why his controls are busted, most of the other characters feel ok. I'm wondering whether gamespeed has something to do with it, because sonic and I have noticed that the game feels a little faster than what we remember.

mech · Post by **mech** » 18 Aug 2006 09:16 am

Doesn't feel faster than the original Hyper version to me lestat.

And I found it easier to do his spinning piledriver than I did back in the day.

Weird how we're all having different problems with it. But I guess that might be because we've all been playing so many different Street Fighters since then originally came out

lestat · Post by **lestat** » 18 Aug 2006 09:40 am

You know what's funny mech, is online the game feels slower to me, but single player feels faster than it should be. weird...

As for the zangief, i remember that to pull of the piledriver, you have to spin the controller with a certain speed for it to work. So possibly the speed and timing candy and i are used just doesn't work in this version. We might have to do it slower/faster than what we are used to. That's my theory on why he feels busted.

GreyWizzard · Post by **GreyWizzard** » 18 Aug 2006 10:18 am

For some crazy reason I can pull off the pile driver more often in this version then in the SNES days. Almost impossible to do it online though...

Zangief didn't have the running grab in this version did he?

Kabal · Post by **Kabal** » 18 Aug 2006 10:53 am

My housemate is a Zangief god, he still lands his 360 piledrivers more often than not on live, even with the lag. Definitely misses more than he does offline tho (which is never

)

I've noticed the game slows down hardcore the more lag there is.

I havent had huge problems with the DPAD personally. You definitely have to be more precise in hyperfighting than in newer SF games though. In alpha and SF3 etc they really loosened em up

Candy Arse · Post by **Candy Arse** » 18 Aug 2006 12:27 pm

Offline in this version of SF2 I can use Zangief as well as I usually can regarding piledrivers. After playing Pilon I went into practice mode and didn't have a problem. Same goes for playing against the CPU.

I think I'm going to do one of those mods on the d-pad as well.

Regarding the speed, it feels like the MD or SNES versions at 5 or 6 stars.

GreyWizzard · Post by **GreyWizzard** » 18 Aug 2006 12:29 pm

yeah it is meant to be set to max speed.

Candy Arse · Post by **Candy Arse** » 18 Aug 2006 12:36 pm

I quite like the pace of it, really.

However some of the voices and sound effects are off. Also the online interface is a bit silly - select your characters and then press start to play? uh....

I want to play it more online to see if last night's lag-a-thon was just an isolated incident. No way am I writing a game like this off early on.

....SF3 to XBLA plz, Capcom.

lestat · Post by **lestat** » 18 Aug 2006 02:34 pm

Regarding the speed, it feels like the MD or SNES versions at 5 or 6 stars.

That's how it feels to me too, but to be honest a faster speed setting is worse for online play. When you're talking about 30-100ms lag over the internet, pushing the game speed up only makes the lag problem feel worse.

But I guess the original arcade code didn't have a speed setting and possibly it could also be the reason why the netcode isn't the best. The game is obvious running in an emulator and the netcode engine is built around inputs to the emulator. Which is why the game feels like a kailera online game.

Faraday · Post by **Faraday** » 29 Aug 2006 01:08 pm

When Street Fighter II Hyper Fighting was released on Xbox Live Arcade earlier this month, many were dismayed to find the game suffered from crippling lag issues. Players also complained that it was possible for "cheaters" to intentionally log out of a game they were losing. Today, Major Nelson, Xbox Live Director of Programming, announced a patch has been released that aims to solve these problems.

Specifically, the update addresses connection and time out issues, and will clear the leaderboards in an attempt to reset the playing field after many users have caused intentional disconnections.

Players will be automatically prompted to install the update the next time they login to Xbox Live with Street Fighter II.

HOT!

I can start playing it again!

cloud · Post by **cloud** » 29 Aug 2006 03:18 pm

FUCKING SWEET!!!