The Official Motorsport thread

Peppermint Lounge · Post by **Peppermint Lounge** » 26 Oct 2008 11:19 pm

Garth Tander was raped by his pit team this weekend. The Holden was the faster car which is why Wincup's effort in keeping it smooth and consistent out front for 3 out of 3 races was an outstanding effort and very entertaining to watch.

Twit · Post by **Twit** » 27 Oct 2008 07:58 am

I think Tander and Whincup's cars were fairly evenly matched, but they each had advantages in different sections. It's a boring track really, there just isn't much opportunity to pass unless you have heaps more speed than the other driver, and even then it's risky. All the big passing manoeuvres happen in the pits, and yeah - Tander's crew let him down (but I think he also let himself down by not pushing hard enough on the in/out laps).

Also - Stoner has won the final round in Valencia! Good finish to the season for him - second in the championship and he can finally take some time off and relax...and get some bone taken out of his hip and shoved into his wrist. It was a great championship defence that he can be proud of. I reckon it will be great to see Stoner and Hayden together next year. They'll have similar riding styles and hopefully can help each other push the Ducati development further.

jahooley · Post by **jahooley** » 27 Oct 2008 09:58 am

Twit wrote:Also - Stoner has won the final round in Valencia! Good finish to the season for him - second in the championship and he can finally take some time off and relax...and get some bone taken out of his hip and shoved into his wrist.

Yea amazing pace too. I think Stoner & Hayden go straight into testing for the new GP9s this week...

Shaneus · Post by **Shaneus** » 27 Oct 2008 12:00 pm

Wow... surprised that there's no news in here about Briscoe winning the Indy up at the Gold Coast! First win by an Aussie ever, and on home soil too

Madmya · Post by **Madmya** » 27 Oct 2008 12:01 pm

'Cos he claims himself to be a kiwi doesn't he?

Texas · Post by **Texas** » 27 Oct 2008 12:03 pm

Shaneus wrote:Wow... surprised that there's no news in here about Briscoe winning the Indy up at the Gold Coast! First win by an Aussie ever, and on home soil too

Nobody cares about one of the V8 Support races mate

stanard · Post by **stanard** » 02 Nov 2008 08:38 pm

Sooo...Massa is on Pole for the final round in Brazil, and Hamilton is down in 4th.

If Massa wins, I think Hamilton only needs to finish 5th to get the championship, and if Hamilton retires, then Massa needs to finish at least 2nd to win the championship.

Should be cracker!

Dan Syndrome · Post by **Dan Syndrome** » 02 Nov 2008 08:56 pm

Watch Kimi reverse into Hamilton at the start. And if that doesn't work he's going to drive into the McLaren pit crew at 260 kmh. A cracker indeed!

stanard · Post by **stanard** » 02 Nov 2008 09:16 pm

I'm just hoping Alonso can get behind Hamilton. That'll be interesting.

stanard · Post by **stanard** » 03 Nov 2008 06:08 am

OH MY FUCKING GOD!

That was amazing. Absolutely amazing.

[Click to see hidden content]: Well done Hamilton, as much as I don't want to admit it, you deserved it the most.

That was one of the most nail-biting finishes I've ever, ever seen.

Wow.

FUCKING WOW.

stanard · Post by **stanard** » 03 Nov 2008 06:22 am

I completely forgot...

[Click to see hidden content]: Poor DC

Dan Syndrome · Post by **Dan Syndrome** » 03 Nov 2008 08:54 am

Damn shame I missed that race.

jizzlobber · Post by **jizzlobber** » 03 Nov 2008 09:07 am

I wish I didn't get up to watch it

[Click to see hidden content]: glock let him pass, I don't care what anyone says, I turned the TV off in disgust and went to bed, fuck this sport!

stanard · Post by **stanard** » 03 Nov 2008 02:08 pm

RAIN + DRY TYRES = SLOW.

Trulli posted an almost identical final lap (was also on dry tyres) so he decided to just go slow too?

Texas · Post by **Texas** » 03 Nov 2008 06:25 pm

Toyota can go fuck my sock. That was a crock of shit. I hope Mclaren want to pay them a shitload.

jizzlobber · Post by **jizzlobber** » 03 Nov 2008 08:13 pm

it's a disgrace, the championship was decided by a team/driver who wasn't in the race... it just shouldn't happen.

is it true glock and hamilton used to race together as joniors?

anyway, it will be forever tainted, i'd feel embarrassed to win that way, i'd rather lose

Beer Belly · Post by **Beer Belly** » 03 Nov 2008 10:02 pm

LOL @ some of yous! It was a truly nail-biting race but I don't see any conspiracy theory raised on the F1 sites I've been to....except for this one.

I think it must be mentioned that certain sections of the track accumulate standing water more readily than others...the last corner before the main straight and the first one after it are prime examples. And as someone above said... RAIN + DRY TYRES = SLOW.

EDIT: are you trying to say that Toyota intentionally kept Glock out on the track with dry tyres so as to let Hamilton win? Now THAT'D be one heck of a theory.

jizzlobber · Post by **jizzlobber** » 03 Nov 2008 10:12 pm

all I saw was glock holding him off easily after hamilton's fuck up, then he slowed right down just before the end to let him past.

i'm surprised there's not more written on the news sites, one of the morning shows reported the race how I saw it saying glock let him past, also using the word 'controversial'.

Madmya · Post by **Madmya** » 04 Nov 2008 02:05 am

Right. I've been avoiding the news all day so I could watch this race. And I've just finished and I'm furious. There's no fucking way that on dry's you'd do a lap time of 1m 44s, especially it was fine the lap before. There's not that huge a difference between the two laps.

God I even watched iTV's pit interview with Ron Dennis and he's like 'Glock's on dry's you can take him on the last lap'. Yeah right fuck off, you paid them you cunt.

pilonv1 · Post by **pilonv1** » 04 Nov 2008 09:52 am

Yeah there was something weird about how slow Glock went on that last lap. But its over, no use complaining now.

Beer Belly · Post by **Beer Belly** » 04 Nov 2008 10:50 am

I'd like to see more of this interesting theory that's for sure.

In other news, ITV bowed out of F1 coverage. Back to BBC next year. Brundle is under negotiation with them from what I've read. Not sure about James.

Texas · Post by **Texas** » 04 Nov 2008 11:08 am

Beer Belly wrote: EDIT: are you trying to say that Toyota intentionally kept Glock out on the track with dry tyres so as to let Hamilton win? Now THAT'D be one heck of a theory.

Exactly.

Dan Syndrome · Post by **Dan Syndrome** » 04 Nov 2008 11:14 am

Really if Toyota were going to let Hamilton win, would they leave it until the last turn?

stanard · Post by **stanard** » 04 Nov 2008 12:25 pm

Ok.

So no one remembers Spa? A few of the drivers (Alonso for example) pitted coming into the final lap and absolutely tore through the field. Bourdais who was still on dry tyres dropped from 4th to 7th on the last corner.

Watch the inboard from Hamilton at Brazil - the car was as twitchy as fuck whenever he tried to put the power down - a 20 second lap difference doesn't seem out of the question for the drivers on dry tyres - and Trulli did virtually the same fucking time as Glock - I find it hard to believe that they were both asked to slow down intentionally, and magically managed to perform almost identical lap times.

And for arguments sake - Massa was gifted 2 points in Shanghai after Kimi let him through, and of course there's the Spa debacle - so that one extra point is irrelevant anyway if you want to look at it from a different viewpoint.

Shaneus · Post by **Shaneus** » 04 Nov 2008 12:26 pm

Wait... can someone explain to me exactly what happened at this race? It's kinda hard to work out what went on just from these comments