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GameHED wrote:Do not consent to searches. If you are not crimnal, you have the rights to not be harassed.
Not sure if you understand the law but no one is a criminal until they are convicted and said conviction is recorded. It is a person's right to refuse to be searched and I would encourage anyone to exercise that right. However, 9 times out of 10 Police will have a prescribed circumstance that allows searching of persons and vehicles. If you refuse to consent then you will be detained and the search will commence regardless. You may ask what that circumstance is and Police officer has to state it. If you impede the search then that, unfortunately, is obstruct and you may be arrested. Refusing to give consent and obstruct is a very fine line but generally people step over it when they try to physically resist. Be aware too that if an incident occurs on a road then Police powers grow in scope thanks to the TORUM Act.
If someone suspects you are in fact criminal, demand to see what the accusation is based on. You are innocent until proof of your guilt is provided.
Doesn't quite work like that, watching too many American Police procedurals? If you are sent to court that is where the full disclosure comes in. A Police officer doesn't have to demonstrate guilt at the roadside, they act under a power and send you before a judge/magistrate who then assigns punishment or dismisses the charge. Arguing otherwise will get you no where if you've been charged. Having said that, a Police officer must explain why a person is under arrest/detained for and for what they are being charged for.
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You are right they 'act'. So it's unlawful. They know it. You just have to provide proof they are committing crimes like stealing property, kidnapping and other crimes otherwise they step over you. The government is run by humans. Humans are creations of God that cause sin so they have sin nature. Stop going to human judges and expecting them to be fair. God is the only judge since he is perfect. You are victims of satanists who use commercial laws like 'acts' to trick you into believing you are property/cattle to be treated as intellectual property which they own. (you agree to being owned when you identify yourself using government issued id) Look the only reason cops exists is to protect property. They don't care about you as a spiritual being. You need to get your own security to prevent unlawful behavior by government workers who believe they are doing nothing wrong. (they just follow orders)

It doesn't matter if you get arrested, what matters is who is right. (we live in the age of the internet where injustice can be more easily pointed out) If the government worker arrests an innocent man, does it mean they are right because the goverment said so? Who created government? Who is paying for it? Why complain or argue with them over policies that you never agree to obey? If you don't want it to continue gather evidence to bring justice and stop these rogues from getting away with it. How hard is it to set up checkpoints and surveilance to ensure these men are obeying common law. You outnumber these people.

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Slavery is not new. It is still here now in the more covert form. Get all the shit back that they stole when they broke into your house and demand they obey constitutional oath. Look stop arguing about what they think is law and educate them on law. Most of these people don't know the law themselves. You can prove it by simply asking questions. This would highlight ignorance and force them to question why they are doing what they do.

You can't seperate the religion from the law since these elites think they are god and have divine rights to rule over you. You have to point out every day why never to obey things they tell you (use traps they set for you against them, by using Jesus' advice) or you will be seen as helping satan and God judges you on things you do. If you really do care about what the government says is law above what God says is law then you are part of the problem.

"That's not how things work" doesn't apply to people with real morals. The reason you think this is due to brainwashing because you thought you were free. No you were allowed to be given the illusion you were free, so that as an educated slave you could earn the slave owner more money than if you were chained up.

All the governments that are not under the control of these satanists are fighting against your government to prevent them spreading the power to theirs. Don't consent, and if forced, you sign under protest and duress. It's universal laws. It's got nothing to do with american tv. These are freedoms the jews in ancient times had to kill for by asking God to protect them. (there are satanists everywhere in society you just don't see it on pop tv unless they want you to) Whenever they were disobedient to the ten commandments God let the bad guys have power over them.

Why is there so much evil and why do they have power? Because ever since the 60s people got weak on morals. Money is the reason people comply, because they think the bad guy will like them if they suck up. If you want to get them off your back you need to pay them off. This is how the world works today. But look what that has got them. The nations that were corrupt ended up getting conquered. (the jews that invented nukes now have to deal with other nations that ALSO can attain them and having power doesn't solve the problem of injustice by evil men, since evil men are only attracted to getting that power for themselves - you solve the issue by fighting the evil, not the men)

If they were to arrest everyone it would just mean loss of money as nobody can produce things. And the less money they have the worse weapons to protect yourself with as the most powerful nations need armies and strong military to defend themselves. Take away freedoms and you become weaker. It is history buddy. You need trust, people can't trust crooks that will not obey simple laws that ensure the protection of people's rights. Same in business. All those big companies that think they can rip off their partners or cheat their own customers eventually will fail in the long run. If you don't have morals you will end up helping the fascist. Please next time gather the evidence of this poor treatement so others can judge if they are acting in a way that is unreasonable. This is important as it can allow the public to take the person out of power.

Now for those who are criminals, you forfeited the rights when you tried to harm others. But those who are not involved in anything that caused anyone harm, then you must get off your arse to prove the accusations of unfair treatment otherwise they can just say whatever they want and the judge believes them since both judge and cop are part of the government law society (probably all luciferians and masons) and have no reason to make you out as the good guy just by being from the same organisation. (conflict of interest. They work together to raise funds for their religion - you are going into one of their temples when you are being judged by them)

If the truth is on your side, witnesses and other honest people are your weapons. They are hoping you don't point out their crimes and just go along with it, and for a vast majority of people that is ok. But if you give up rights then you can't complain when it is assumed that you had none by default. (stop showing them government issued id. It is what they need to get you to admit you are property of the beast)

You have 2 types of people in the world. Those that want more material wealth and control over resources and people. And those who are spiritual. If you are spiritual you do not see yourself as a physical being like an animal, but you see yourself as a soul in a physical body. You do not have a soul but you ARE a soul. When you die you get judged based on the stuff you did, so in some religions they call is karma, others just say you go to heaven or hell. Basically its a way for the universe to punish the wicked and comfort the good while they spent short time on earth. There will come a time when you have to seperate what you physically want vs what you need. There are some people who do not want justice because it is comfortable to live how they want to live. This is the reason people die. If you just let them do what they want it would cause great suffering to everyone else and so death is good. The ancient Tower of Babel had to be destroyed for this reason to free people from enslavement. The universe/God/karma whatever you want to call it judged mankind. It you break the moral laws, the penalty is death. (spiritually and physically) Whatever little contracts corporations have between each other has nothing to do with the real world. They are dead entities which can't speak, or act on their own. So what the government wants to do is attach them to you and pretend/act like you are a corproation.
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GameHED wrote:You are right they 'act'. So it's unlawful. They know it. You just have to provide proof they are committing crimes like stealing property, kidnapping and other crimes otherwise they step over you.
Did you even read what I posted or are you wilfully ignorant? Legal lesson 101 - there are these things called Acts. One of the oldest in Queensland (for example) is the Criminal Code Act. There are others that have been created as time has gone by. There is the Domestic Violence and Family Protection Act, the Mental Health Act, the Transport and Road Use Management Act, the Summary Offences Act, the VLAD Act (the one that relates to bikies) and bunch of others. Police in Queensland have their very own Act - the Police Powers and Responsibilities Act. This Act is essentially a list of all the powers Police possess and how relate to other Acts. It's fairly dense so I'll direct you to the most relevant sections - s.365(1) & s.365(2) (powers of arrest for summary and indictable offences); s.29 & s.30 (search of persons and those prescribed circumstances I mentioned), s.31 & s.32 (powers for searching vehicles). There are a fair few more but I recommend you give it a read, hopefully it informs your next opinion.

They rest of your post, unfortunately, is so much verbal diarrhoea. If you dislike the system Australia has I highly recommend living in a country where civil rights are routinely abused and power is not properly kept in check. Or even live in a country where the legal system places the burden of proof on the suspect (i.e. Japan). Australia probably has the most secure and laissez faire systems of governance in the world.
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Rorschach wrote: If you dislike the system Australia has I highly recommend living in a country where civil rights are routinely abused and power is not properly kept in check.
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*sigh* he is trying to insult me. Acts are not laws. Legal != lawful. Please stop the brainwashing, nothing government says is law can be law unless you consent.

No I will not live in another country I will fight wherever I go. Criminal actvity like tresppassing, kidnapping, stealing property are violations of basic freedom. You can go and rant all you like about whzt the government believes are laws, but they are using legalese (in other words it is a completely different language to english) to deceive you. A lot of intelligent people fall for it. Simply because they think they accept government as a moral authority. If a government legalises sinful practices that offend you, you have every moral right to stop participating.
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Also on a semi related note this is why people who are fighting to get obama out of power need your support. We know the world is controlled by these elite banking cartels, we know they are doing the collapses by design, The question now is what to do about it. I mentioned before that after the 60s it was about that time morals atarted to fall as after the JFK assassination it led people to lose hope in the future so they turned to drugs, sex rock n roll as an escape.

If we can get glass steagle act then nations would be better off. The younger geerations will see the most benefit.
I have been listening to a lot of what lyndon larouche has to say and the fact of the matter is the british empire (aka invisible empire) is to blame for holding humanity back technologically. The royals have seen the rise of man as a threat to controls. Think of it like guilty spark wanting to killl the flood zombies in halo under the belief the flood will threaten their power. Sure people are breeding and populating the planet but that just the human right to and it goes with what the bible ays to be fruitful and multiply. More humans means more labour. Things get done faster and we advance quickly.


First we got to get control of the issuance of money so that kids don't join gangs and give them some hope.
Second, glass steagle.
Third backup government for freeman run by ex-military people to protect against government genocide after corrupt people hijack the controls.

Bikies like the freedom to ride around on a motorbike but that isn't the only thing. You should want the freedoms to arms yourself against hired mercs and robot drones and other threats like looters who will steal your things during a natural disaster. The police can not be relied upon to cover everyone at once. Everyone should lead themselves in these rare circumstances. Fuck idiots like Piers Morgan. lol

The issue of whether we should be allowed to have guns is a non-issue. The use of guns can be used in righteous ways and injust ways. Judge each case individually.
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I'm pretty sure we have bases on mars actually. But it has been kept secret for a long time. We do not know what is going on up there and it is speculated that there is a secret war going on between our shadow governments of the world vs aliens. Either that or it is human vs human fights using earth made ufo spacecraft for control over mars and moon.

We live in a time now where everyone has cellphone camera and you are seeing increasing numbers of people with ufo footage posted online. Lots of this tech is knowingly being surpressed by governments who work for the wealthy families that wish to hide it away to keep us primitive.

People within the military who know about this are told to shut up but are coming forward under the disclosure project to ask the government to remove restrictions they signed which prevents them from talking about this topic in public.

If you don't believe in high tech being surpressed thzt is fine but it can solve our energy crisis and prevent terrorism.
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GameHED wrote:*sigh* he is trying to insult me. Acts are not laws. Legal != lawful. Please stop the brainwashing, nothing government says is law can be law unless you consent.
Nope, trying to educate you - an Act is a legal document (in written form) passed by a legislator to regulate certain area of social behaviour. It is one of the sources of law. As it relates, law is generally a system of rules of behaviour covering all sources of law and are a system of regulations to govern the conduct of the people of a community, society or nation. Laws are further sourced through case law, precedents and open to interpretation. I'd write a reply to the rest of your post but it would be a waste of time. I'll leave off with a quote from Mr King:
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Legal != lawful. Know the difference. No government can demand something unless you consent. If you agree to anything that results in you giving up rights thay's your business though. Legalese is not = english. As a law society they want you to fight each other in their court because it makes money. (nothing to do with justice as you can see in the real world) Choose peaceful means to solve disputes.

You as a man are a living entity. What they want to do is call you by a legal fiction (not living) so they can extract money out of you like milk from a cow. This is the big scam freemen are tfying to avoid being a part of. If you already know what is right or wrong you do not need to ask government to tell you. That is admitting you are relying on them to actually tell you how to live and not your bible/religious figure etc. God existed, created man, man then created government, government then created persons /legal fictions to handke youbas a baby before you grew up and took responsibility for yourself. (ie like a nanny) It goes in that order of authority from left to right. That which you create, you control. Slavery is morally unjust so nobody in their right mind would try argue against this. If you think you can order anyone else and demand them to do something you are admitting to being a slaver.

Judging by your profile you are asian so maybe you have different systems going on. But in western society we obey constitution, people are all equal under God, and we don't believe might equals right. We believe in justice not whoever has the best weapon deserves to lead. You see this theme in a lot of comic books and cartoons where the good guy uses righteous actions to get bad guys rather than becoming a mad-max style force to punish bad guys for personal reasons and in the process abuse his power. Society has decayed because there is a war between british/dutch against america to control america invisibly. They wish to corrupt the youth. Once they successfully remove the constitution and take weapons away you will see the nation become a dictatorship. They did it here and now they want to do it everywhere.

The good news is nations are slowly waking up to the corruption and japan for instance has jailed some of the bad guys. It is a sign that people are waking up to the scams. We know that if we go to another war it will involve nukes, and nobody wants this. We just want to solve the problems and correct them so people don't turn to lawlessness to survive. This is what the reptilians wish so people are competing against each other for resources. It benefits them beccause they want to say that you are nothing more than savage animals to be ordered about by them who can bring order. (ie dictatorship) If we allow criminals to have moral authority it will encourage them to abuse the powers we granted them due to our own lack of respect for ourself.
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Rights only work if you choose to exercise them. It is not the responsibility of governments to tell you what your rights are. You have to tell them what your rights are or it is assumed you have none and this is why so many people are confused. They expect cops to not use legalese ( buy a black's law dictionary and read what the defi ition of words are) to trick them. All they are in cynical terms is tax collectors. Not that it isn't valuable as a service, but you can't expect them to know who you are without you telling them. It doesn't have to be a government issued ID. Just be nice, tell them who you verbally and be on your way. But always film it because how can we the public be certain if you are lying about abuse of powers if you don't bother to record things? You could have acted in a threatening way or used force. All we have is your story.

If there are abusive police who you guys are claiming are corrupt, show us, and then people can actually get something done. It only drags the name of the police down if these guys get to continue. Nobody should be taking anyone's side. We have to establish what are the facts. It's not that hard. Every fucking person has cellphone with cameras on it. The cops these days have cameras on thier hats so it makes it easier to see things from thier side. All you need to do is get yours out so we get both sides. We are paying them money so we want to know if they are of quality. If you ask them questions and they lie about something we can correct them. They are just human beings. You don't need to match force. Beat them at the higher level of finding out if they ignored your basic rights.

That's far more scary to them than you getting angry and doing a mere physical attack on a bad cop. (it could harm thier career) Today's generation only gives a shit about money. But you got to look at tbe big picture: getting the evil cop to turn good so you don't want them to harm YOU. Harming them is not the point of the exercise. It is testing to see if they are honoring their duty. When they kidnap, steal, lie etc these are things you need to prove before anyone will support you. It's not the concept of police you are against. It is about them providing bad service which causes you harm in the form of property which was stolen from you, damage to you, violating your privacy etc. The community doesn't want corrupt cops to be able to get away with abuse. But we can't know this unless you show us this stuff. We can't rely on the mai stream media to tell the truth. And you can't just believe people are being harassed unless they can show this. For all we know it is not that hard to steal cop uniform pretend you are a bad cop and make them look like the bad guy by doing abusive stuff. But video of it at least lets us identify the face to find out if they are real or not. Document stuff.

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