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Because after the Xbox, 360 and One we all know Microsoft can't count.

So it seems that the One Windows for everything idea is finally coming to fruition:

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Would certainly make Windows Phone more attractive if it's running the exact same OS as my desktop and tablet and HTPC. I guess the Xbox One will receive a pretty big Windows 10 update too? Might sway a few who have yet to commit to the next gen (like me).

And the Start Menu finally returns:

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The user interface feels familiar yet modern. The "dual mode" - which aimed to satisfy tablet and PC users, but alienated both - has been replaced with a dynamically-adjusting interface and behaviour, determined by whether you are using a keyboard/mouse, or touch.
Which is what everyone said they should have done with Windows 8 :|

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Re: Windows 10

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Do we know why it's Windows 10 and not 9?

Other than that it sounds good to me.
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Marketing gobbledegook - "We made so many changes we had to skip 9 and go straight to 10!!!"
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Windows 10 to mark the leap towards unifying all devices. They were considering Windows One but decided against it as the name had already been used.
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They should be doing it. Universal apps across Home, Tablet & Phone would very appealing for me.
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So basically, Windows 10 is what 8 should have been. I'm OK with that.
Somebody on The Verge opined that it looks like it should be called Windows 7+ and that's not a good thing. Given the debacle that the Start Screen is/was, this is a good thing, ffs.
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They should get rid of the bright spark who got rid of the Start Menu, and give everyone who's currently on Windows 8/8.1 a free upgrade.

Also, how about bring back DVD and BluRay playback! FFS, get rid of the eeediot who thinks it was a good idea to remove it in Windows8/8.1.
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My advice to others has always to skip every second version of Windows. You keep compatibility and seem to miss the crap. Windows 2000, skip ME, XP, skip Vista, 7, skip 8 and now Windows 10.

I am weary of the one store Apple style bullshit and I hate the coloured squares and rectangles that I still see in screenshots of 10.

Most importantly for my desktop PC is the ability to arrange / organise my installed programs the way I want to on the start menu. I have been doing this for years and its quicker for me than typing in a search field. It was a lot harder to do in 7, but could get it done. This is what I mean:

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If it's anything like the App Store on OSX, you're still free to get software from elsewhere.

I wonder if apps will be required to support all devices? Sounds like a pain in the bum for developers.
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On OSX I'm running snow leopard (mid 2010 MBP) and I'm finding lots of software not being compatible with it lately since it's "old". But on Windows with winxp/vista it's a different story, there's still software available for it and it's much older.

I know mavericks is freely available on the App Store but I've read those user reviews and decided against it.
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I laughed when I read they called it Windows 10. I seriously thought it was a joke. What has been shown so far really only seems to be windows 8.2. They first announced the new start menu as coming in a windows 8 update. So now it's in a new operating system. The universal os does sound good and is worthy of a new moniker though. From what I read they didn't show much if anything of the touch experience saying that won't be shown till next year. Not sure what is going to be in the preview then.

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This looks awesome. I wish I still had a windows pc, maybe if I ever get a bigger place. Windows 8 was a dog but this actually looks decent.

It's funny working in the US - was busy bagging Windows 8 yesterday and it turned out the QA manager who sits next to me did QA on it. Hah.
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My PC is ready, so is my tablet, phone and console. :D

They didn't confirm it's a free update for 8.1 users? I saw rumors about it but didn't see anything in official PR yesterday.
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Gamma wrote:If it's anything like the App Store on OSX, you're still free to get software from elsewhere.

I wonder if apps will be required to support all devices? Sounds like a pain in the bum for developers.
I thought developers would love it? They only need to write one app instead of one for Windows, one for Windows RT ( :lol: ), one for Windows Phone and one for Xbox.

The next Nexus phone was the front runner to replace my HTC 8X. Now I will wait to see if Google and Microsoft will kiss and make up and all the Google apps come to Windows 10. That will probably be enough to sway me.
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This could potentially be awesome for the bone?
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Gamma wrote:If it's anything like the App Store on OSX, you're still free to get software from elsewhere.

I wonder if apps will be required to support all devices? Sounds like a pain in the bum for developers.
I thought developers would love it? They only need to write one app instead of one for Windows, one for Windows RT ( :lol: ), one for Windows Phone and one for Xbox.

The next Nexus phone was the front runner to replace my HTC 8X. Now I will wait to see if Google and Microsoft will kiss and make up and all the Google apps come to Windows 10. That will probably be enough to sway me.
Yes, just 'one' app, that has to support all those different sizes and inputs. Should be easy.
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lestat wrote:My PC is ready, so is my tablet, phone and console. :D

They didn't confirm it's a free update for 8.1 users? I saw rumors about it but didn't see anything in official PR yesterday.
It farken better be a free upgrade for poor 8.1 users like myself :x
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Misread the post. Thought you meant is it possible not will you be forced to. No, you wont be forced to, that's been confirmed.
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Just played with it in VirtualBox. So far, it's really nice. The best bits of Windows 7 and Windows 8 put together is a perfectly apt description.
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With my 8.1 pie-rat activation playing up I might just buy a proper windows 10.
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so my initial impressions of it running in a VM were so good, I went and installed it on real hardware. So far, it's very very nice. Its performance is being severely limited by the hard drive I put it on though, but it's still good.

The biggest annoyance so far is the Metro apps deciding to run fullscreen by default. Makes sense on a smaller screen, but surely MS can tell I have a 30" monitor. I like the way the window titlebars change colour to match the background image, but I'd really like my 'glass' transparencies back.

I miss Sidebar Gadgets. I know they've been gone since Windows 8, but there are some very handy ones out there - the Daemon Tools one in particular has been very useful, IMO. So far, I've not been able to replicate the functionality of the Sidebar with Apps. In fact, as far as I can tell, Apps from the store are buggy as all hell.

In the entire time I've been a PC geek, I've only ever been excited about one Windows release - Windows 7. Windows 10 comes pretty close, though.
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My understanding regarding the name situation is code-related - with Win95a, 95b, 98 and 98SE all built on most of the same framework, a lot of programmers got lazy when it came to getting their programs to check OS compatability, by writing code along the lines of "if name of OS starts with 'Windows 9', then run in mode <blah>".

That could be garbage, though. Maybe there's no windows 9 because 7 8 it.
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You should have said "maybe they went straight to 10 because 7 8 9"

I had heard about the OS check thing but I'd say it's BS. Why release something close to OSX and call it 9. X is like 1 better. But then use 10 not like that old timey Roman bullshit, we use real numbers!
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flipswitch wrote:On OSX I'm running snow leopard (mid 2010 MBP) and I'm finding lots of software not being compatible with it lately since it's "old". But on Windows with winxp/vista it's a different story, there's still software available for it and it's much older.
A much higher percentage of OSX users run the latest version than do Windows users, which is likely a factor. I guess it depends what you're using it for, I've always gotten a really good run out of my MBs and MBPs. I'm also using Snow Leopard (though I'm stuck on it due to hardware, no option to upgrade further), and it runs the latest version of Lightwave 3D. I was astonished, my MacBook is eight years old. The only trouble I've run into was a C obfuscator that required 10.9, though admittedly it's been a while since I've updated any of my audio software.

My main point was that Misly doesn't have to be wary of "one store Apple style bullshit", since Apple style bullshit doesn't lock you into one store in the first place, and I'd be very surprised if MS didn't take the same approach with Win10.

Ambrose Burnside wrote:Misread the post. Thought you meant is it possible not will you be forced to. No, you wont be forced to, that's been confirmed.
So apps might be universal or might not? I'm not seeing how this is substantially different from having separate OS families. I guess it gives the outward appearance of a single unified OS, but does that really help anyone other than the MS marketing team?

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lestat wrote:My PC is ready, so is my tablet, phone and console. :D

They didn't confirm it's a free update for 8.1 users? I saw rumors about it but didn't see anything in official PR yesterday.
It farken better be a free upgrade for poor 8.1 users like myself :x
Free upgrade for all Windows 9 users.
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