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GameHED wrote:What I don't get is: why don't they go and actually arrest the child porn makers who created the blacklisted sites instead of forcing the population to have to give up their freedom and privacy?
They can't.

Obviously the solution is to educate people (yes, including children) about what's out there and why it's bad, not draw the curtains and hope nobody notices.
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The problem I have is that the internet isnt even the only medium whereby one could acquire the objectionable material in question. Yet it is targeted purely and simply because of ease of use and the fear of tech that inspires Luddites.

Take the example of the news today where adult shops are restricted in queensland from being located within 200m of a school or church.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... 459425.htm

I dont know about many other people, but personally I think banning children from approaching within 200m of a church would be a better idea given the hate and manipulation often spouted from such places.
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Wow folks. This is all backfiring bigtime on the government here today folks, and the knee jerk reaction is to pull down the curtain quickly.

This is absolutely sickening. I feel like I'm going to puke.

The banned list got leaked to Wikileaks.
So in response, Wikileaks is now impossible to reach from Australia.
All Wikileaks mirrors are impossible to reach from Australia.
It also appears that PrisonPlanet forums are gone too. I was reading through the many threads about this very thing when the plug was pulled.

Remember this day folks. 19 March 2009. The day Australia lost our freedom.
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OMG K RUDD IS GOING TO MAKE TEH INTERNET BETTERS! BOUT TIME WE STOPPED LIVING BEHIND THE REST OF THE WURLD.
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Post by Hercy »

Are you sure they're not down due to traffic? The filter isn't live yet so I doubt they could block it even if they wanted to.

Anyway, the latest advice Labor have is that the filter would need legislation, and there's no way that's getting through the Senate.
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Wow. i was reading the Wikileaks thing earlier today and, yep, it's definitely not accessible anymore. There are a bunch of sites on that list that are your regular porn thumbnail sites, there's a couple of Wikipedia links (yes) and a bunch of other shit that was timing out. I didn't think anything of it until you mentioned Wikileaks.
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Post links Elf so I can test them, primarily the wikileaks one. I'll do a cut n paste.

What happens wen Rudd finds out about GR since the server is overseas? ;)
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Those sly, dodgy cunts.

Prison Planet indeed.
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Hercy wrote:Are you sure they're not down due to traffic? The filter isn't live yet so I doubt they could block it even if they wanted to.
Yeah check whirlpool, they're just experiencing stupid traffic right now
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PrisonPlanet is up now (was problems at their end), however Wikileaks is goooone.
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The server at http://www.wikileaks.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; is taking too long to respond.
sounds like super amounts of traffic to me
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Hahaha, I just sent an email to Prison Planet telling them Aussie censored them

And I changed my FB status to suit. Cunts.

However, wikileaks doesnt work anymore anyway. It's now http://www.wikileak.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; with no S fromwhat I can tell.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikileaks" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.wikileaks.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

edit: My internet is super slow right now. Youtube especially.
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wikileak is nothing to do with wikileaks
This blog here at WikiLeak.org (no "S") discusses the ethical and technical issues raised by the WikiLeakS.org project, which is trying to be a resource for whistleblower leaks, by providing "untraceable mass document leaking and analysis".

These are bold and controversial aims and claims, with both pros and cons, especially for something which crosses international boundaries and legal jurisdictions.

This blog is not part of the WikiLeakS.org project, and there really are no copies of leaked documents or files being mirrored here.
why the fuck would prisonplanet be banned?
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/18" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... wikileaks/
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This works though, does it work for you guys? http://twitter.com/wikileaks" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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yep
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Very interesting. Many, many sites linking to wikileaks and a few in Aussie too that should be fined.
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Yet it is targeted purely and simply because of ease of use and the fear of tech that inspires Luddites.
The establishment can't control the internet, it's as simple as that. It's not to protect people from offensive material like porn or anything like that. That's just the cover. The real reason is to limit knowledge that they don't want the public to have access to.

Think of info as a type of weapon, and that censorship is a way to disarm the people and win the info war. Just as gun confiscation is pushed heavily to remove any physical attack, so to is the banning of free thought to prevent a mind attack that is capable of breaking the chains that bind people to slavery. It's easier to shape opinion when people are forced to look at things the only the government allows you to see to push whatever propaganda they need to get you to accept whatever lies that need to be spread.

The liberals can't help because they are part of the right-left trap which is part of the mind control. Both sides are created to divide and seperate people into groups to distract them from what's really going on - Thesis + Antithesis = Synthesis. ie this system of mind control assumes one side and the other side are both partially right and that if both come to a compromise, then they are closer to getting a balance of some sort that will make both sides happy. This is the flaw: in reality it allows changes to come about that ultimately make things worse for the majority of people because nobody questions why a change must be made to begin with. Why people must march towards a given agenda and not just reject the thought (of needing some stupid change the establshment wish to bring in) altogether.

The biggest change and goal of the establishment is to rob the average common person of something they have which they value, and then through those things they value, hold people to ransom over it. Absolute control over minds and through that, the behavior of the masses, is something of great importance for them in order to shape opinion and to make people submissive to the plans that they wish to bring into place.

step 1.
disguise yourself as one of the people fighting for their interests. Promising them they will bring about some change to help them.

step 2.
disguise yourself as one of the people fighting for the interest of the enemies of the first group. Promising they will bring about some changes to help them.

step 3.
turn both groups against each other and encourage war between people by focusing on the differences both groups have on many issue in order to divide the sides to make them easier to manipulate them and their behavior.

step 4.
control the war by arming both sides in secret and helping each side to kill each other off and escalating the violence and hate. As warrior cult they want people to fight and kill and then later loot both sides.

step 5.
When people can no longer fight, you can now offer the pre-planned solution to the problem (a problem which was created specifically to bring about the change/solution that the public would not normally agree to under normal conditions but might agree to under "crisis" conditions) by coming in as the peace keeper, and posing as a benevolent group just innocently wanting to rescue people from the crisis.

Step 6.
bring about the benevolent dictatorship. Call it "Peace and security" (at the cost of your human rights and freedoms) "to protect you" from war and hate and violence. "To Protect you against yourself" The global public will agree because they are tired of fighting and will accept anything. They are at breaking point and through the shock of horrorific wars, people will give into the emotional side of the brains and not the logical side.

Result for the elites: Ultimate control over all people by creating new laws to imprison the masses and accepting of their godkings as great saviors who ended war by uniting the world into one big global order that brought stability. The great evil empire is now complete, now kill any resistance to the absolute rule which includes anyone against dictatorial controls and paint them as terrorists out to threaten the (false) 'peace'. The last enemy (after a global peace is achieved and there are no more obvious external enemies left to fight) ..is.. YOU. The domestic enemy. Make war with the innocent. Try to turn the police against the people they were sworn to protect and serve. Give them tasers so they won't leave marks or signs of abuse of power. Demonise any true liberty loving people as dangerous terrorists who want to rob the public of peace. Ban information and program the masses to believe nothing is wrong there is no bad left to fight. The evil empire shall live on forever.


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Censorship of the internet is just one out of many things the NWO need to further influence minds. It's just like how in that movie the matrix, the character Neo tried to escape the matrix and wanted to see the truth of the world outside the virtual one he had been programmed to believe was real. What you are seeing today, is imo a type of awakening of the prison they've lived in, and the confusion of not knowing "who can we trust now that our own leaders are part of helping the very bad guys who have taken our freedoms from us?"

The truth is all leaders (the kings of this world) are manipulated in some way by their own greedy desires. This evil exists in all people and you can't solve problems until people fix the evil in themselves individually for allowing all this bad to come about through their own ignorance. The first step is waking up to all this corruption to begin with and many people were not ready for it yet due to shock and disbelief that their own kind could betray them like this.

Now I'm not an anarchist or an antigovernment person or anti-technology. Just anti corruption and lies and against the misuse and abuse of power for evil purposes.

The global economy is deliberately going to collapse...on purpose... so.....the very bad guys....who triggered this collapse ... could ...create .. the conditions.... for the global... acceptance... of... a global currency... a global government.... a global military... a global bank... global control grid... global spyware ...(monitor purchases and sales with the chips implants)

...global control that does not allow you as an individual to disagree because its GLOBAL. Entire planet's rules.

This is why they want each nation to give up it's national sovereignty so that each nation becomes increasingly reliant on another country just to survive. By weakening all people and getting them to have to rely on each other rather than being independent; able to support themselves without the need for an external 'hero' to rescue them, they can further increase their controls over the whole planet and cause global chain reactions that end in predictable collapses (chaos that can be used to create order - like dominoes falling over each other) and take advantage of the crisis in a way that makes people give up their control over their own lives to them in exchange for being 'rescued'.

Now that people are waking up, what you are seeing is the desperation to cover all this up. What might sound shocking to ordinary people, seems logical to all those who understand that power and manipulation of key people in official positions of trust through bribery, blackmail, threats, mind control, (oaths of secrecy combined with infiltration into the secret group to sabotage the original groups noble beliefs and twisting thier meanings) convincing-sounding lies and illusions, (the sith lord's power to deceive) etc is how humans all throughout history have allowed the evil to exist due to their own failings by allowing it because they envy what they can't have and seek things that are not rightfully theirs, at the expense of the sufferring of others.

No it is not shocking that men in positions of trust want to cover things up and censor your thoughts and speech. It never was. Because most people are tempted to actually DO wrong (the dark side - easy path) rather than what's right. (the kind of person whose intent is pure but who often at odds with a majority of people in this world who are not like them, so they get attacked and are threatened. The HARD path.)

Now if people just fix what's wrong with them, (waking up to their reality and looking at the mirror and clearing their mind of the junk information fed to them which causes them to not change) none of this would have been able to happen. It's easy to just blame one side and say: "that's it! There is the source of all the problems and we just need to get rid of that one guy and only that one guy without looking at what direction we are heading. The evil and bad is defeated now I can go watch sport and pretend all is well."

Not as simple as that. Much more complex: there is a group of puppets all taking orders from a "sith lord" type of people able to hide from public scrutiny. Things are not what they seem on the surface.
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http://www.wikileakS.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; works for me.
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what the hell are you lot on about? Wikileaks has worked fine for me constantly!
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Hang on, so if someone sticks the link to that wikileaks page on this forum, it would have to be removed, or it's $11,000?

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It wasn't working earlier though as when you guys had trouble, I couldn't get on either.
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Post by unfnknblvbl »

we're not hosted in Australia, so we're probably alright.

And t0mby, if you couldn't get on at the same time as everybody else was having troubles, it's probably because the server was under a lot of stress. It happens.
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NO UNFUNK. IT'S THE DAY AUSTRALIA LOST OUR FREEDOM.
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