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Here's a crazy thought, 'cos I'm fuckin' triggered, but if the light bulb that blinks' gender is such an issue then as a parent why don't you simply refer to it as a little green person.

I'm just wondering how this plays into Dan Andrews' precedent that gender isn't binary.

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“It is important to challenge our thinking beyond the binary constructs of male and female.”


Yet he's just gone right ahead and allowed the pedestrian crossing to become gender binary.


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Right, but basically what you're saying is that any remotely humanoid looking figure should be considered male unless it's wearing a skirt. This sign isn't meant to be gendered - it's meant to tell humans whether to walk across the road or not. Changing it to a gendered version does nothing to address unconscious bias, and in fact reinforces it.

Shouldn't we instead try to make it look even less gender specific? How about just making it look like a comedy android with a big round head or something? I'm not against spending some money to make people happier if they feel the current one looks too much like a man, but at least try to make the thing you do sensible.


The only bit I don't understand is why you think changing to a gendered pedestrian signal reinforces unconscious bias. By changing to a gendered version I assume you mean change to female given they are already pretty unequivocally male.

The bulb head stick figure used in some signals is still male gendered. All stick figures in media, games or drawings I've been exposed to over the years are male unless otherwise indicated (usually with long hair, a triangle skirt, big red lips, boobs maybe).

The only way to eliminate gender is to do away with humanoid figures. Either revert back to 'walk' and 'don't walk' signs or we copy Blade Runner.

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I see your point now. Changing to a skirted stick figure still taps unconscious bias via skirt = female, which is arguably outdated. As mentioned I think that's mitigated by the limited ways you can distinguish gender in a one colour 2d figure. Same goes for restroom signs. Also that point is separate to the issue they're addressing which is the unconscious bias behind male figures featuring on all pedestrian signals.


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Yes Pep … briefly: it promotes “skirt == female”, reinforces “lack of skirt == male”, and further entrenches this bias. If a proposed solution actually makes the problem worse … then it isn’t a valid solution. This is just pandering to make thoughtless people feel like “progress!” (IMO).

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Also that point is separate to the issue they're addressing which is the unconscious bias behind male figures featuring on all pedestrian signals.

Not male figures - genderless figures you are inappropriately assigning gender to because of bias.


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Fair enough. Having just flicked through my Facebook feed I can confirm my activist lesbian friends agree with you 100%. They're resenting the skirt and saying the existing figure could just as easily be a woman in trousers.


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I lol'd hard at the twitter comment "Man in a kilt".


Haven't seen it, but that made me laugh.


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...Did you just assume the gender of that traffic signal? Men wear skirts too you know :?

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Western feminists tackling the world issues that really matter......

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This can't be real......can it??


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Nikki Webster has re-released a new version of her 2001 smash hit single "Strawberry Kisses" :keke:

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What a wreck, not even 3am lights on last resort :lol:


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That story linked to an even better story of chicks drinking Mountain Dew with their butt holes. I was quite impressed.


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