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Clinton's push for the "noo wurrld Ordr" and a global community using positive sounding terms. Sounds like global socialism.



another reptilian hilary clinton video. I've actually seen a person with eyes like that (cat like eyes) before. I won't mention their name but at the time I didn't read up about all this "reptilians are controlling the world" stuff. If I had met them later I would have asked them if they were able to hypnotise people like the Sauron character in x-men.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauron_(comics)

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John Carpenter was right..


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Here is the stuff about "global population reduction" plan just to show you people that the conspiracy is real:

This makes me want to puke:
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life ... 627634.ece

The religious people are given orders to be "fruitful and multiply", the treehugging cult is saying the opposite: that humans are a virus that needs to be wiped out. Just as agent smith describes to morpheus in the matrix.

Your very existence is a burden to them. Not a joke. We've come this far and people are excepting the lies that they should feel guilty for living. The georgia guidestones is an outline of their plan to reduce it to 1/3 of the size. Then after that I predict they will rely mostly on robots to do everything. Then maybe leave earth, and move on to fuck over another innocent race on another planet which they will destroy after they've collected what they need. Sort of like how the quintessons had control of the transformers before they broke from their enslavement.

georgia guidestones:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
"Be not a cancer on the earth."

Note the hostility toward humans in that mock commandment. (the exact opposite of commandments given to the chosen people) It's a nice way of saying, "go kill yourself". Only an alien being would say something like this. Possibly a mind-controlled human whose body was taken over.

I got to give them credit: The bad guys are damn good at dressing themselves up to seem all humanitarian and nice. To all the earth worship cults: it's just a rock with imprisoned beings inside it who you are communicating to that are leading you all to your death. The thing that created the rock itself is trying to save you. Stop trying to kill the human race off traitors. You are just being used by the elite to carry out their genocidal plans. Trust your instincts!

Government has no business telling people what they can or can't do in this matter. It's a violation of a person's human rights. Just accept evil for what it is. These people have absolutely no respect for human life.

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and BTW I have nothing against the real greenies who care for nature out there, just these NWO shills who have hijacked your cause and have their own evil agenda. The fact is all the major causes which are at first well-intentioned, if it can serve them in some way, will get hijacked eventually. But in this case it is not hard to see the connection and how it contradicts the views of any sensible person who loves their freedoms. Earth is not a prison for them to order you what to do. If you want to save the environment it will be on your terms, not through these people who want to intrude in and control every single aspect of your life. :down:

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Porritt, a former chairman of the Green party, says the government must improve family planning, even if it means shifting money from curing illness to increasing contraception and abortion.

like I said, no respect for humans. These are the cancers on the earth.

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More info on artificial structures/pyramids/faces on the moon:

the indians have found an anomaly:

http://www.ufoblogger.blogspot.com/2009 ... -show.html

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The eyes, nose, and mouth look a bit sinister. Perhaps it is a warning: "do not venture here. Great peril awaits those who open the tombs." But just based on the direction the light is coming from, it looks like a hole in the ground rather than a pyramid structure.


Dark side of the moon is where all the good stuff is.





There are probably space castles up there like in the Quake games. Dead alien animals, treasures, libraries, mysterious underground bases, and even ancient post-apoc robots.


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Why the middle class will eventually disappear:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Richest_A ... _0131.html

Told you they were laughing there arses off. Americans: hurry up and start that revolution! :up: Don't be a doormat and let them step all over you. Eventually all that money is going to go into fewer hands and the pie is getting smaller for the needy.



The guys at the extreme righ end of the graph are the ones who will be hiding in the underground cities like little cockroaches when 2012 comes. :D


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Interesting UK docco about how Sadaam Hussein started selling oil in Euros back in 2000. Tips Saudi Arabia and other oil producers to start doing this very thing very soon.



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"Vote for me to get UFO disclosure"
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All the ufo nuts will finally know what's out there.
All the cattle mutilations, abducted people and missing children, secret technology, crop circles, chupacabras, information on bases can finally be discussed openly. This is stuff I would want to ask about at least.

We could then move on from using cars and start mass producing antigravity vehicles (those surpressed inventors will have to watch out for attempts on their life) and humans can finally fly to other planets without outdated rocket technology and people will be able to live on floating cities getting from destinations seperated long distances in seconds.

That is all assuming the MIBs don't threaten his life and prevent him from speaking about aliens out in the open of course.

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For those who like to break codes, and look to find hidden messages in their spare time, you might like to view this thread on david icke forums.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthre ... 6&page-886

The idea is that in the news headlines you may find hidden meanings and codes being used by those using them to transmit the messages to their recievers and like batman trying to solve riddler's crimes, you can piece together the hidden meaning to reveal the secret message being passed on.
Of course nothing is gauranteed to actually make sense, you just try to find the patterns and see where it will take you.

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here is an old but very relevent article for today's tin foil community from bbc on the usage of agents to counter government criticism used by china.

The future internet will probably be a combination of censorship and groups of paid agents who will try to persuade you to their views. Based on the success of china, I predict much deception in the future by those who seek to gain riches as internet spies and spinners.

Kevin Rudd is too close imo.

Who would have thought we would ever embrace censorship of words in the future and follow the bad examples set by other countries as being a good thing for you? *shakes head* Things are changing very rapidly. People of today will never admit they are being subtly mind controlled, hypnotised, persuaded away from their own beliefs etc because that's how good the mind control IS. If you knew opinions were being shaped, then the effects of the control wouldn't be so successful.

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A document released by the public security bureau in the city of Jiaozuo in Henan province boasts of the success of this approach.

It retells the story of one disgruntled citizen who posted an unfavourable comment about the police on a website after being punished for a traffic offence.

One of the bureau's internet commentators reported this posting to the authorities within 10 minutes of it going up.

The bureau then began to spin, using more than 120 people to post their own comments that neatly shifted the debate.

"Twenty minutes later, most postings supported the police - in fact many internet users began to condemn the original commentator," said the report.


the info wars continue.. the police are going to be hiring chad warden to infiltrate your local community.

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6 mysterious deaths at minot airforce base within 7 days. Commander now dead. Missing Nukes.
http://www.legitgov.org/minot_afb_nukes_oddities.html

May not be safe to be in a big city if this is what I'm thinking it is. (ie "Jericho" type thing)
Sounds very suspect to me. Must be orders from a rogue element from up high.. Candy and Twiztid Elf you should keep an eye on that one. War with Iran is coming.
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Someone, operating under a special chain of command within the United States Air Force, just stole a nuclear weapon.

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Some History

Barksdale Missile Number Six deserves far more public attention than it's received to date. Missile Number Six is potentially the major story of at least this year.

Until 1968 under the Airborne Alert Program, informally called Operation Chrome Dome, the Air Force routinely kept about a dozen strategic bombers with nuclear weapons flying at all times.

One predictable result was crashes and incidents. In 1968 the Department of Defense published a list of 13 serious nuclear weapons accidents that occurred between 1950 and 1968. In 1980 the list was revised to include 32 incidents through that year.

Notably, the Pentagon has not acknowledged any accidents since 1980. This alone highlights the importance the Pentagon is placing on the recent transportation of nuclear weapons from North Dakota to Louisiana.

Through 1968, several reported incidents involved plane crashes or malfunctions, beginning with the crash of a B-29 near Fairfield, California in August 1950. The resulting blast was felt 30 miles away.

In July 1950 a B-50 crashed near Lebanon, Ohio. The high-explosive trigger for the nuclear weapon detonated on impact. The blast was felt over 25 miles away.

In May 1957 a nuclear weapon fell from the bomb bay of a B-36 near Albuquerque, New Mexico. Parachutes malfunctioned and the weapon was destroyed on impact.

In October 1957 near Homestead, Florida a B-47 crashed. The nuclear weapon was burned.

In March 1958 a B-47 accidentally dropped a nuclear weapon near Florence, South Carolina. The high-explosive trigger detonated on impact.

In November 1958 a B-47 crashed near Abilene, Texas. The trigger of the nuclear weapon exploded upon impact.

In July 1959 a C-124 crashed near Bossier City, Louisiana. Both plane and nuclear weapon were destroyed.

In October 1959 a B-52 with two nuclear weapons was involved in a mid-air collision near Hardinsburg, Kentucky. One weapon partially burned.

In January 1961 a B-52 broke apart in mid-air near Goldsboro, North Carolina. Two nuclear weapons were released. The parachute on one weapon malfunctioned, and contamination was spread over a wide area. The uranium core was never recovered. Daniel Ellsberg reported that detonation was a very real risk because five of six safety devices failed.

In that month near Monticello, Idaho a B-52 carrying nuclear weapons exploded in mid-air. No information was made available as to the weapons.

In March 1961 a B-52 with two nuclear weapons crashed near Yuba City, California.

In January 1964 a B-52 carrying two nuclear weapons crashed near Cumberland, Maryland.

In January 1966 a B-52 carrying four hydrogen bombs crashed after a mid-air collision near Palomares, Spain. Two weapons exploded on impact, with resulting plutonium contamination. A months-long program was undertaken to locate and extract the other two weapons from the ocean. Major policy changes were taken under consideration.

In January 1968 a B-52 carrying four hydrogen weapons crashed and burned near Thule AFB in Greenland. Explosives in one bomb detonated, spreading plutonium contamination. Apparently, the other three weapons have never been accounted for.

Following large public protests Denmark, which owns Greenland and prohibits nuclear weapons on or over its territory, filed a strong protest. A few days later the Secretary of Defense ordered the removal of nuclear weapons from planes. After that order was issued, all aircraft armed with nuclear weapons were grounded but kept in a constant state of alert.

In 1991 by Presidential order, nuclear weapons were removed from all aircraft. Bomber nuclear ground alerts, during which nuclear weapons are loaded onto bombers during test and training exercises, were halted. After that time, all nuclear weapons to be delivered by plane were permanently maintained in secure storage facilities.


August 30, 2007

All of which makes the transport of nuclear weapons in combat position on a combat plane so newsworthy.

On August 30, for the first time since 1968, nuclear warheads in combat position were carried by an American bomber. Numerous international treaty provisions were violated in the process.

That Thursday, a B-52H Stratofortress flew from Minot AFB in North Dakota to Barksdale AFB in Louisiana while carrying twelve cruise missiles. Either five or six of those missiles were armed with nuclear warheads.


Cruise Missiles

The missiles on the B-52 were AGM-129 Advanced Cruise Missile units, specifically designed to be launched from wing pods of B-52H planes.

A total of 460 units were manufactured by Raytheon. A total of 394 units are currently maintained by the Air Force. Apparently, 38 are to be modernized and upgraded in Fiscal Year 2008 and the other 356 are to be decommissioned pursuant to the 2002 Moscow treaty.

Raytheon has publicly announced the AGM-129 missiles are to be modified to accomplish a "classified cruise missile mission". This has widely been interpreted to mean conversion to bunker-busters, most likely for use in Iran. This widely accepted explanation is being used to explain why armed cruise missiles are being flown in American airspace.


Nuclear Warheads

The AGM-129 was specifically designed to deliver a W-80 nuclear warhead. The W-80 weapon has a variable yield capability, of 5 to 150 kilotons. For comparison purposes, the bomb used on Hiroshima was 13 to 15 kilotons, or equivalent to 13,000 to 15,000 tons of TNT explosive.


News Stories and Flawed Explanations

The story of the B-52 flight was first reported by Army Times, owned by Gannett, on Wednesday September 5. Gannett relied on information provided by "anonymous officers". The story was picked up by Yahoo Wednesday morning, published by USA Today and The Washington Pos, and then quickly spread.

In response, the Pentagon quickly spread an official explanation.

The Air Force admitted to an inadvertent error: The intent was to transport ACMs without weapons. According to military officers, the nuclear warheads should have been removed before the missiles were mounted on the pylons under the wings of the bomber.


In the words of the Pentagon:

"There was an error which occurred during a regularly scheduled transfer of weapons between two bases. The weapons were safe and remained in Air Force control and custody at all times."

For almost the first time in the history of the nation, the military has publicly and promptly admitted it "made a mistake". This in itself is truly astounding.

To reinforce the military's claim that a mistake was made, a system-wide stand-down was ordered for September 14.

That official explanation was quickly explained away. The mistake was made intentionally, so a "deliberate leak" of a secret operation could occur.

The CIA and the Office of Counter-Terrorism in the State Department explained that Barksdale AFB is a "jumping off point" for re-supply of the Middle East.

The "deliberate leak" was intended to serve as a veiled warning to Iran. This deliberately misleading explanation is evidently intended to lead the public or Iran or both to logically conclude the missiles are bound for Iran.

Bluntly, State and the CIA converted a whistleblower leak by true American patriots into a deliberate leak by official Washington, to scare Iran.

By this means Washington has led the public to forget or overlook the real issue.

To begin, the multiple official explanations reek to high heaven. They collectively read suspiciously like flimsy cover stories concocted in hasty desperation. And no amount of pretty lipstick will be able to make the official explanations pretty.


Transportation Violations

More conflicting explanations followed. These missiles are part of a group scheduled to be decommissioned. This would explain why they were shipped out of North Dakota.

But the missiles were not transported on their way to decommissioning. Missiles are normally decommissioned at Davis-Monthan AFB at Tucson. Nuclear weapons are decommissioned at the Department of Energy's Pantex facility near Amarillo, Texas, accessed through Kirkland AFB in New Mexico.

And military policy requires minimization of the number of flights made with nuclear weapons aboard. So the weapons should not have been mounted on the missiles, flown to Louisiana, un-mounted and flown to New Mexico.

The mode of transportation is also a major issue not defused by official explanations. Per standard operating procedures, or SOPs, both missiles and nuclear warheads are transported primarily by air, in specially modified C-130s or C-17s. Under no peacetime circumstances do military SOPs allow transport of nuclear weapons mounted in cruise missiles mounted in combat positions on combat planes.

Department of Defense Directive Number 4540.5, issued on February 4, 1998, regulates logistic transportation of nuclear weapons.

By delegation of Commanders of Combatant Commands, movement of nuclear weapons must be approved by commanders of major service commands.

Commanders of Combat Commands or service component commanders must evaluate, authorize and approve transport modes and movement routes for nuclear weapons in their custody.

The Air Force is required to maintain a Prime Nuclear Airlift Force capability to conduct the logistic transport of nuclear weapons.

Under SOPs, combat planes with combat-ready nuclear weapons can only be flown on the authority of the Commander in Chief, the Joint Chiefs of Staff or the National Military Command Authority.

All of these transportation regulations were flagrantly violated on August 30.


Handling Violations

Violations of regulations concerning handling of the nuclear weapons in North Dakota are worse.

A sophisticated computerized tracking system is used for nuclear weapons. Multiple sign-offs are required to remove the weapons from their storage bunkers.

The AGM-129 Advanced Cruise Missile was designed to carry nuclear weapons. No non-nuclear warhead is available for this missile. So the only possible error could have been loading nuclear warheads on the missiles instead of practice dummies.

The practice warheads have standard blue and yellow signs declaring "Inert, non-nuclear". The nuclear warheads have at least three distinctive red warning signs. This error is therefore highly improbable, absent tampering with signage.

Nuclear weapons are transported from the storage bunker to the aircraft in a caravan that routinely includes vehicles with machine guns front and rear and guards with M-16s. All steps in the process are done under the watchful eyes of armed military police.

Rules require that at least two people jointly control every step of the process. If one person loses sight of the other, both are forced to the ground face-down and temporarily "placed under arrest" by observant security forces. All progress stops until inspections are made to assure the weapons weren't tampered with.

All nuclear weapons are connected to sophisticated alarm systems to prevent removal or tampering. They could only be removed from the storage bunker by turning the alarm off. And the squad commander clearly would not have authority to turn off the alarm.


The Impossible Mistake

Bluntly, the mistake of loading nuclear weapons on a combat aircraft in combat-ready position is simply not possible to make. Safeguards are far too stringent and far too many people would be involved. Particularly given that the mounting was in violation of policy that's been in place without exception for almost 40 years.

No discipline is expected to be meted out. The New York Times tried to imply the commanding general had been fired. Actually, the squad commander in charge of munitions crews at Minot was "relieved of duty pending an investigation". He has not been removed from his position or disciplined. The crews involved have been "temporarily decertified pending corrective actions or additional training" but have not been disciplined. No mention has been made of the wing commander.

Note carefully: These actions amount to nothing at all. The wing and squad commanders are still in place and the crews can easily be re-certified.


Successful Confusion

Washington's efforts to confuse the public have been successful. Attention has shifted from the crucial issue.

This news has already become non-news. The August 14 stand-down will momentarily become news, followed by announcements of more stringent restrictions, improved safeguards and additional training. The public always has been and always will be safe.


One of the major issues will be avoided:

Someone in an irregular chain of Air Force command authorized loading and transport of nuclear weapons.

And that would never have been done without a reason. Given the magnitude of regulatory violations involved, the reason must be extremely important.

The paramount issue will be avoided, if necessary with repetition of the reassurance that the Air Force was in control at all times. The weapons were only missing during the 3.5-hour flight.

At Barksdale, the missiles were considered to be unarmed items headed for modernization or the scrap heap, and of no particular importance. They were left unguarded for almost ten hours.

According to one report, almost ten hours were required for airmen at Minot AFB to convince superiors that the nuclear weapons had disappeared. According to information provided to Congress, this time lapsed before airmen at Barksdale "noticed" the weapons were present. News reports will continue to overlook this fact also.

Even here the focus is on time. The number of missiles and warheads issue was overlooked.

Early news reports spoke of five nuclear warheads loaded onto the bomber. Apparently, this information was provided from Barksdale.

That number was later updated to six weapons missing from Minot, apparently based on anonymous tips provided to Military Times by people at Minot. This information has also been forgotten.


Conclusion

Six nuclear weapons disappeared from Minot AFB in North Dakota.

Five nuclear weapons were discovered at Barksdale AFB in Louisiana.

Which leads to my chilling conclusion:

Someone, operating under a special chain of command within the United States Air Force, just stole a nuclear weapon.


What next?

The answer has been provided several times, most recently by CIA Director and General Michael Hayden. On September 7, dressed in full military uniform, Hayden told assembled members of the Council of Foreign Relations:

"Our analysts assess with high confidence that al-Qaida's central leadership is planning high-impact plots against the U. S. homeland."

"We assess with high confidence that al-Qaida is focusing on targets that would produce mass casualties, dramatic destruction and significant aftershocks."

An eye for an eye. Use of nukes will justify use of nukes. A perfect excuse to wage nuclear war against Iran.

I suspect Hayden is absolutely correct, except for his mistaken identification of the "central leadership" that is planning detonation of a nuclear weapon on American soil.


Everyone might want to start watching..
http://wimp.com/surviveattack/


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Here's an older article on the domestic spying plan in the US in case it hasn't sunken into peppermint lounge's head yet that movies like Enemy of The State are very helpful in showing us what to expect in future. :P
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/9/9/51544/46359

Like I say they are fictional stories but based on some facts and have truths in them. Just like how a Tom Clancy Novel is a fictional story but there is a lot of technical detail to make it realistic.

Personally I find science fiction to be interesting because we are reaching a point where computers may advanced enough to eventually learn like humans and possibly replace us.

Here is a wiki article explaining technological singularity:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity

As advances accelerate sharply we will eventually get ever closer to a AI like HAL that can be smart enough to be put into control over human tasks. You can't say you haven't been warned. This theme of machine taking away control from his creator was tackled in the new astroboy toon when that mad scientist has his own robot supercede his brilliance and turns against him. At the end of the "AI" movie, robots were clearly shown to be "the next evolution of man" with man an extinct species that robots of the future would have loved to have studied and catalogued as part of their ancient history, or possibly study in their labs.

Sound ridiculous but it should because we are primitives and are getting old. Look at old people today: they struggle to know anything about computers and technology and it may as well just be magic to them.

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The Real ID Card Act was pushed back to 2009 from previously May 2008.

There are over 1,000,000 ++ UN and Russian troops positioned in the US now. The Chinese, North Korean and Russian troops are in Mexico. Right now they are working to destroy Mexico's economy so that it will collaspe and blaming on the drug war which is a lie. Russians are in South America, Cuba, Canadian border and Alaska. The CIA has been organizing street gangs, specifically MS-13 and the LGF to start a crime wave in at least 3,500 + cities nationwide. This will cause Americans to agree with a declared national emergency and martial law. This will be the fourth bonified planned military coup of the U.S. Government by the Illuminati.

Nukes if need be will come from nuke subs off the eastern and western shores. They will release a deadly strain of FLU from the chemtrails being sprayed. Now, this is not a Hollywood Movie as the info and sources are real world. get ready. once the dollar crashes it will be worth nothing. Banks will close and people will raid the markets. crime wave will start and we will want martial law. Then we will move into the UN as just another member of the New World Order. This is all supported by sources and research.

Or just watch the series "Jericho".

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mysterious deaths - could it all just be a coincidence?:

Senior Airman Adam Barrs, 20..........Auto Fatality......July 3,2007
http://www.minot.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123059778

First Lt. Weston Kissel, 28.....Motorcycle Fatality.....July 17,2007
http://www.minot.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123061162
http://www.bismarcktribune.com/articles ... 136489.txt

Captain John Frueh...Last spoke to his family...Aug 30,2007...Body found Sept 8 (Apparent suicide,although he had a backpack with a video camera and GPS.
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/9679367.html

Airman 1st Class Todd Blue ...Guarded the unit...September 10, 2007 ....shot in the head while on leave visiting family...
http://www.blackvoices.com/boards/news- ... /-/20762/1

Barksdale AFB...(where the plane landed)
Senior Airman Clint Huff and His Wife Linda.....Motorcycle Fatalities
http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?S=7085072

Capt. Jonathan Bayless....February 3,2009....Police found the body...no details yet
http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2009/ ... er_020109/

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Banning guns!
ATS thread discussion on how guns are going to be banned from people on no-fly lists. Many innocent people who are not terrorists on the no-fly list will have no right to bear arms. The no-fly list is non-constitutional so it doesn't protect innocent people who are just suspected but not proven as terrorists. System is flawed.


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Here's a real conspiracy theory. China faked their spacewalk.



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Hah, wow.


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Lol not to side with the nuts, but why would you find that video so easy to believe and not the others? It looks at least as dodgy as any of the others I've bothered to watch...


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No really I'd like to know why, and if you really believe what you saw in that YouTube vid or if you're having a laugh?


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I would say it's fairly likely China faked the video but the event really took place. There are a few reasons why this is more plausible than other conspiracy theories.

1. Russia did a similar thing back in the 60s.
2. China got caught faking their broadcast (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... space.html)
3. China faked a real event using CG for the Olympics (the fireworks).
4. The video is quite compelling with the errors it points out. In particular the movement of objects is nothing like that seen in other spacewalks. The 'bubble' coming out from the helmet is particularly dodgy. I watched the video in full for myself, and there are numerous other inconsistencies not shown in this video.



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Here's a real conspiracy theory. China faked their spacewalk.



debunked already

http://www.astroengine.com/?p=1531


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I don't particularly doubt that China got up there, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they faked the video anyway so that it was higher quality, there were no hiccups, etc...

That debunking is moderately successful, but even he was a bit stumped by some of the bubbles.


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I'm somewhat less convinced by the conspiracy theories claims after viewing this video:

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badas ... pace-walk/

Hmmm.


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Isn't that the same video that I posted above?

I just can't shake a dodgy feeling about this one. It's kind of sad actually, because now I know how it feels to be a conspiracy theorist and having people uncritically react. That said, most conspiracy theories still don't deserve ANY attention. :D


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I agree, most of them don't. People in the opposing camp tend to want to lump all conspiracy theorists together, thinking that they all believe everything written about a particular conspiracy.

Someone in this thread, I think Vince, wrote some shit about me believing in remote control planes or some crap during 911. um....no. I believe in remote control planes being flown into buildings like I believe in secret missile pods being attached to them, or a secret reptilian race ruling the Earth from the underworld/White House; meaning I do not.

As far as 911 goes, which I believe in the long run will be looked at like Pearl Harbour, was an inside job. To what extent I can't explain because like most everyone else I don't know everything, but I do strongly believe that it was not simply the work of a group of ragheads with box cutters. I won't go much into what I believe was controlled demolition (a number of "experts" are on both sides of that argument, mech, not just yours) other than what I have stated here and elsewhere about a thousand times.

As far as I am concerned, 95% of conspiracy theories make for great reading, and would make for some really enjoyable movies, but that's about it. With that being said I certainly am not close-minded about anything. I've never seen aliens (well outside of western Sydney) but I believe they exist and have visited this planet in some form. I won't go as far as crackHED and bow down to our grey overlords, but when I look up in the sky all I can think of is that I can point in any direction and surely soon enough I could come across a planet capable of sustaining intelligent life.

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As far as 911 goes, which I believe in the long run will be looked at like Pearl Harbour, was an inside job.


Are you saying Pearl Harbour was an inside job?

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Candy Arse wrote:
I agree, most of them don't. People in the opposing camp tend to want to lump all conspiracy theorists together, thinking that they all believe everything written about a particular conspiracy.

Someone in this thread, I think Vince, wrote some shit about me believing in remote control planes or some crap during 911. um....no. I believe in remote control planes being flown into buildings like I believe in secret missile pods being attached to them, or a secret reptilian race ruling the Earth from the underworld/White House; meaning I do not.

As far as 911 goes, which I believe in the long run will be looked at like Pearl Harbour, was an inside job. To what extent I can't explain because like most everyone else I don't know everything, but I do strongly believe that it was not simply the work of a group of ragheads with box cutters. I won't go much into what I believe was controlled demolition (a number of "experts" are on both sides of that argument, mech, not just yours) other than what I have stated here and elsewhere about a thousand times.

As far as I am concerned, 95% of conspiracy theories make for great reading, and would make for some really enjoyable movies, but that's about it. With that being said I certainly am not close-minded about anything. I've never seen aliens (well outside of western Sydney) but I believe they exist and have visited this planet in some form. I won't go as far as crackHED and bow down to our grey overlords, but when I look up in the sky all I can think of is that I can point in any direction and surely soon enough I could come across a planet capable of sustaining intelligent life.


I never said you believed in the remote control planes, i'm saying that's one of the many bullshit conspiracy theories going around.
Pearl Harbour an inside job?!? You're kidding right? Maybe, just maybe, the USA government had some fore-warning that something MAY happen with the Pearl Harbour attack and 9/11, but to say they were behind it is ridiculous.
I do agree that life does exist on other planets, but i need solid proof to say that we've been visited before...


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This guy is telling you to be vigilant. Watch for the signs around you and pay attention to attempts to lure masses of people into a trap.





Remember this is a long term goal: reduce the population after sucking them dry of their wealth. Use chaotic events to get you to trust them to lead you to prisons and give up all your freedoms in the belief you are safe.

On 911:
government was warned. High ranking official knew it was coming and told not to fly on the date. But normal people in the buildings were allowed to be killed and have no warning. Everyone in the building died because they needed the death to get the population angry and willing to fight and kill. PNACs dream is war forever to keep the machine running non-stop. True peace is a threat to the military industrial complex. If there is no enemy, there is nobody to sell to. You must first seperate the people on issues they strongly disagree on. Get both sides to hate each other by funding both sides of war. And then you create the right environment to make the population scared. After they are scared to die, unite the world into global dictatorship with those in power using the militarised police and military to control the world using the high technology which they borrowed from the aliens whose bases are hidden from view.

He who has the best weapons gets to rule the world. Where does all the funding come from? Us!
We fund the weapons.
We allow 911 t happen.
We elect the leaders who you want to control your lives.
So we must face the consequences of the actions they make which doesn't hurt them, but only us.

Financial crisis is designed to collapse the US economy and declare martial law, making you out as a bad guy that needs to be contained like some kind of dangerous criminal. (like the plan you've been shown in the simpsons movie)

The only way to defeat it: is fight the evil in yourself. Stop feeding the beast. Stop acting like you can't help yourself by paying for shit nobody wants. Don't let the government pollute their minds with junk info. And have an open mind: there are black projects you don't know about that are probably alien in origins and that will be used to control you.

If you don't believe in aliens fine. Just trust your gut instinct about the government and how much lying you've had to put up with in the past and start trying to find out as much information as you can get. They think lying can protect you. Lying is just so they can hide the truth. Having truth frees you. The aliens don't want that. And neither do the government. Information is power. Which is why they need to collect information on you, and monitor your activity so they can further enslave people with the forbidden technology rather than using it for good.

I'm cynical because history doesn't lie: we are not a mature race of beings. Those who have the best stuff, will just use it to destroy others for absolute control. There have been many attempts in the past to have global government and they all failed because it just leads to your own death. Seriously if you don't fight for your rights, your kids deserve the world that is coming, because it could not have been built without your help. It's all a big test to see who are the true ones willing to sacrifice their career, reputation, comfort, status, money etc for better things. The NWO is real.

The US are only just waking up and seeing their basic freedoms being taken away because of years of mind control, manipulation, strong persuasion, and a sense of denying what's there on the part of the masses just like the characters stuck in the matrix afraid to think about it.

Look if you want to live in a cage? Simply just don't do anything, step aside and let it get worse. Be part of the plan. Meanwhile observe as your free speech is taken away, your body is chipped, you're told you have no right to have a camera, you should allow robots to take the jobs of humans, your money system is screwed up and set up so that it can be stolen and mishandled easily, your guns are taken away, your water is polluted, aliens come and go as they please.

Phil Schneider Lecture on underground bases (main focus seems to be hostile greys):








With all the increasing UFO sightings, people will rise up to demand what is going on and for information about this. It's possible the UFOs are just experimental craft made by humans only. But it doesn't matter. The public has a right to know what's going on. Because of all the secrecy for so many years, the people on the surface are unprepared to be able to respond to a threat from hostile aliens.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -UFOs.html

I'm thinking hostile humans are the ones helping the hostile aliens take out the non-hostile humans and keep them in the dark about this stuff.

...

more on the missing nukes and mysterious deaths from proj camelot.
http://www.projectcamelot.org/barksdale.html
(this is very important and relevent stuff the MSM will not cover)


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re: Pearl Harbour being an inside job, I refer to the US knowing the attack was coming. They needed a convincing argument to join the war and that was it.

Not too different to requiring some polarising event to push through various policy changes/invade foreign countries - 911 worked just fine.

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This one concerns 2012 mass alien landing from "Mr X"


Mr X dead:


Do not trust government.
Do not trust the greys.
Do not fall for their demonic tricks.
Benevolent beings do not abduct children and interfere with our weapons. (they are just using us for something and then enslaving and taking over the planet)

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12 december from proj camelot:
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CNN correspondent Miles O'Brien, who had been reporting intensively on ET- and UFO-related subjects, was fired this week.

Richard Hoagland says this piece on the Mars 'worm' is what got O'Brien into trouble. Hoagland further states that he and Sir Charles Shults have found multiple photo evidence of similar worms on Mars.

Interestingly, the 'fossil worm' looks very similar to images pointed out to us by Henry Deacon of an ancient collapsed tunnel construction on Mars. In an unrecorded conversation, Henry told us in 2006 that he had once stood in one of the Martian 'tubes'.

Apparently there's also something about what's going on with NASA and NASA Administrator Mike Griffin and an investigation by Lori Garver who is heading up a 'space transition team' of Obama's to check into how money is being spent.

Hoagland is going on Coast to Coast AM in a day or so to discuss this. What is Griffin so riled up about, and what is he blocking Lori Garver's team from seeing regarding his Constellation program?

As Hoagland said to us, stay tuned...

--Kerry


Miles O'Brien piece that got him fired:

The worm on mars:
http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/te ... s.worm.cnn

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For those worried about RFID, surveillance, NWO etc there's a good roundup of news articles on this here to keep you up to date:
http://www.lambslain.com/2008/11/global ... codex.html
..slowly a little bit at a time the technology is being worn on the human body and you are being cataloged (ie like the nazis had, but more hi tech), tracked, rewarded for participating in, and made to feel uncomfortable if you don't go with the flow.. The abuses of technology will go out of control, people will be acclimatised to feeling like a criminal by default and given a number like some robot, but feel trapped by big brother technological spying. It will save time and you will see the conveniences, but you'll also feel the darkside of it. (can you really trust electronic records that are so easily forged? Or the total reliance on it that will happen which can lead to chaos like what y2k was going to be or just accidental loss of the information)


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Thanks for that Phil Schneider stuff GH. He's a bit unconvincing in places, particularly towards the end. It's almost as though he's making it up as they go along, particularly during question time.
Fascinating just the same though.

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Hillary Clinton has a presence of a demonic entity, if you want to call it that, a transdimensional Reptilian entity that’s so powerful... It’s one of the most negative feelings I’ve ever had.

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My new Mastercard has an RFID in it.
NOT FUCKING HAPPY.
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DTV boxes have cameras & microphones in them.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=87074


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