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I believe it is time for me to express my position concerning the incident that occurred at The Games Ranch earlier this week. I understand that unfortunately just like PlayNOW! this forum operates in a pack mentality with members ganging together when attacking another, but happily I don’t fear bullies and it certainly wont stop me from truthfully discussing this matter.

This episode initially began within my Wii launch thread, when Cletus from out of the blue decided to blatantly attack me with some premeditated bigotry comments directed specifically at me. He did so by quoting me, and then making comments about Nintendo attracting only “bi-curious” gamers and how I personally “should be thankful that Nintendo supports backwards compatibility” (which would be funny if it were not made as an individual insult - his prejudiced attacks were also much more extreme in chat). Most members on GR would be aware that I have innocently & light-heartedly labelled myself “bi-curious”, as I am experimenting throughout me adolescence and high school years (I’m 17).

I following reading Cletus’s comments, sent a PM attacking him for his actions and chose to include one small pornographic image to teasingly remind him of the subject matter he has chosen to insult me with. Cletus replied to my PM by lashing out with vulgar names whilst also boasting how he can delete my account and how I am “hovering over a banstick”. He then immediately banned me from the freemasons forum and deleted my privileges from posting in the front-page forum. Calculatedly he proceeded to create a threat with his own spin about the incident in the freemasons forum, aware it would be impossible for me to defend myself within a thread I cannot view. He additionally created a front-page topic again regarding this issue, which he then deleted for unknown reasons (and which I personally did not see).

I understand that non-politically correct terms are commonly used in online forums, but what makes this occurrence different is Cletus chose to out of nowhere enter into a thread to personally and exclusively attack me with bigotry comments, using my personal life to shamelessly further his insults. I understand the initial bigotry comments made by Cletus were according to him to “troll” and “bait”, but frankly I must ask, isn’t there anything better for Cletus to do then slam my personal life in a public forum just so he can pop a boner for a successful online troll, especially if he is indeed a moderator?

In the last 24 hours I have had the ability to retaliate Cletus’s (and others) attacks against me, by stooping to a level that I refuse to drop to. Cletus has continually baited me to make a move, and if I wanted to, I could. Though Cletus has deleted my ability to create new front-page topics, something crucial he failed to realise is I still have the ability to edit my currently heading front-page post, meaning if I wanted to, the Game Ranch homepage could have been uploaded with hardcore pornography hours ago (which I WONT be doing! even though Cletus has baited me to try my best).

Another very high profile Games Ranch member who has recently also attacked me concerning this matter has prior at one point, carelessly posted an irrelevant photo within the forum. Snooping into that image link for a few minutes’ forwards to this GR member’s personal online blog. Within his blog, he discusses some extremely confidential & distressing issues, including his battle with a mental illness, emotional instability, negative effects of medications concerning his mental disorder and thoughts of suicide, which he expresses through entries and poetry he has written.
I feel as though I am doomed to walk this tedious path for the rest of my days with no "loving embrace to see me though".

My self confidence and self-esteem are at an all-time low, and I honestly can't tell if the anti-depressants are working or not. If it were not for the faint glimmer of hope, I probably would "walk away" from life and all.

I guess I was hoping to get some emotional stability happening or something. To get numbed right out, even. The thing is, they don't seem to be doing anything - I'm actually suffering more severe mood swings than I did before I was on them. Last night, for instance, the waterworks just came on for no reason whatsoever, and all day today, I've been on the verge of just losing control of it all.

It's good to cry every now & then, but I really need to be able to maintain a level of control over my emotional wellbeing. I wish I had some stability in my life, and that people would just understand that I have a mental illness.

Mentally and emotionally, I'm about ready to just shut down into a coma.

Fuck I hate life. Why can't I stop crying?
Spare me from your heart
For I've a broken mind
When I have time to heal,
I'll get right back to you
If there were no reward to reap,
No loving embrace to see me through,
This tedious path I've chosen here;
I certainly would have walked away by now.
I'm on the lithium.
Because of you, I'm on the lithium.
We'll never know what it could have been.
Shattered and numb, I've never felt so alone.
Fourteen long years, I hated you so much
I blamed you for everything wrong in life
Bearing my grudge, holding my heart so high

But then you came back to life, and I only wanted to hurt you.
Then I saw you did not know what you had done to me.
I fell down.
I fell down.

For so long I tore myself out of you
As my heart lay beating upon the floor
I can't help but scream at you for more

But then you came back to life, and I only wanted to hurt you.
Then I saw you did not know what you had done to me.
I fell down.
I fell down.
I fell down again.
I of course had no idea what I had stumbled into with my snooping, but tell me Cletus & gang, shall I now expose this high profile GR member’s identify, link everyone to his blog and personally begin to ridicule him for my own amusement and fun session of “trolling” and “baiting”? (I would like to say to this person that I apologise for using you as an example, and that I have absolutely no intention of revealing who you are).

Should I also maybe post some anti-semitic propaganda and visual material including the highly notorious swastika imbedded Star of David to individually attack Jewish members of GR (and there are quite a few), or to a higher degree of lameness, mock GR members with obesity issues who had previously discussed their weight concerns at other forums?

The point I am trying to make is I understand offensive and at time bigotry terms will be used within this forum time to time, but I 100% condemn members using other’s members personal lives as a tool to bait and troll.

Though I find it distressing that Cletus has any form of power within this wonderfully developed forum, I also have to declare that the moderators of this forum have failed to control this matter and recognise that some things just shouldn’t be allowed to occur, a basic principle even the moderators at PlayNOW! are fully aware of, when they properly managed such situations.

Though I do agree that I possibly did overreact, I will NOT be leaving this forum, as other then this incident and a prior episode with Candy Arse/Megaman, my time here has been fantastic and trouble free. I understand some members may now proceed to call me a “faggot” or “poofter” to bait me, but (a) it’s not going to work, and (b) hopefully GR moderating improves to ensure any matter of discrimination is managed properly, or this forum will indeed never progress and develop to become a new and improved PlayNOW! (with 1000+ members) or even an Australian Neo-GAF alternative (if that were your strategy).
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Shut up you viral marketing cunt.
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Post by Rocco »

"viral marketing bi-curious cunt" would have been a more so thread relative bait.
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Post by jizzlobber »

:lol:

bigot this, vulgar that.
I don't care what you say mate, cletus' "attack" in in line with his personality, i'm SURE he intended in as nothing more than a light hearted troll, but I think you know that too don't you? I mean i'm sure you've been around to see what he's like, he's a joker.

You went and sent him a gay sex image via PM, that is the first time the line was crossed.

since then this issue has grown, I don't agree with making posts about it on the front page, it's our front gate and admin should know better, i'm sure that's why it was taken down soon after as you say (I didn;t see it).

anyway, at the end of the day you should simply be mature about it and apologise for sending the gay sex image, it would actually give you some cred rather than using another members troubled thoughts as a tool.

think about that mate.
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Rocco, I think you need to take a step back and have a look at this. This is the posting sequence that started it off:
Cletus wrote:The last of the great original Nintendo games were made for the N64.

Since then their console games have been nothing to write home about...unless your a Zelda fan I suppose.

I'd be more inclined to think that Nintendo are aiming for the gay market this time around.They've almost given up on the kiddy market knowing full well that Zelda games only appeal to the bicurious and straight out homosexuals.

It's triple J all over again.It's as if being a manly man type bloke is criminal these days.

EDIT: I've been posting replies just trying to upset someone here for weeks and nothing.If this comment doesn't piss someone off I give up.
Rocco wrote:I know that was simply an attempted bait, but acting like an attention whore doesn’t excuse being a fucking dimwit, considering that was indeed a deliberate personal attack against me.

Eat shit! :down:
I've bolded the important bits.

Cletus said it was a troll/bait. He said it as clear as day and YOU EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED IT YOURSELF. You then proceeded to fall into the trap you knew was there.

That said, Cletus himself has admitted on numerous times he has many gay friends, and the fact that those people on the board who are gay/bi/nintendo fans didnt react to this says to me that it was just a joke that was clearly signposted.

I suggest you take the time to re-read the thread and learn not to overreact to every little thing you see. Hell, if I werent half as careful as I am now imagine the shit I'd be falling into with Candy Arse's deftly placed trolls.

The fact is, you responded to a joke with an overreaction and gay porn shock images.

And for what its worth, I know you tried to edit your post and all the mods knew about it by Wednesday morning. So it would have simply been deleted.

You can try and be narky about it but I suggest you tuck your tail between your legs, learn from it and not overreact next time.

As for cletus: having helped set up this place is why he's a mod.
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Post screencaps of my PMs to you roccor.

I posted yours.

I have removed your access to Freemasons only.Anything else you've had changed hasn't been my doing.I have no reason to deny it either so call me a liar if you please.

As for the accusations of directly insulting you,the mirc logs are public,nothing has been edited.

You need to grow up but don't feel the need to hurry.
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Oh and Pat,you missed this comment I made in the Wii thread which I thought was particularly clever trolling.
Cletus wrote: Hey,the 360 supports BC as does the PS2,the Wii and the PS3.

I remember when no consoles supported the Bi Curious so be thankful.
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And so I did.

Out of interest, how is joking about bi-curiousness offensive? The fact it has the same initials as backwards compatible is the only joke I can see, and the term itself cant be offensive if thats how one identifies themselves. Or am I missing something? Unlikely.

Now, if you were to go on a violent rampage because of something the Pope quoted, then we might have to ban someone :D
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Wow, I bet unfnknblvbl wouldn't want to be unmasked as the mystery man who:
a) has linked to his blog heaps of times
b) has posted about the subject matter heaps
c) started a thread at 4BG about anti-depressants

And in fact, your post is about 100 times more offensive than anything that Cletus has ever posted, including that tubgirl pic, because you're actually implying that unfnk should be embarassed or ashamed, whereas Cletus was just upholding the fine PlayNOW tradition of popping bubble boys.
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Hercy is correct.

Ban Rocco.
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Post by lestat »

I was the one who actually removed your front page posting rights rocco, since i gave it to you in the first place just recently. After seeing what you sent to cletus, i was concerned you might get carried away and deface the front page which is not cool in my books.

Personally rocco i have no issue with you trolling the board, having arguements with people in threads and stuff. Just don't go the extremes of what you did, you can have a go at someone but i think everyone agrees around here what you did was pretty extreme and totally not necessary.

I'm not for banning you but of course if you keep doing what you did, general support for a banning will rise and i'll be forced to respect the wishes of the board as a whole. Take it as a warning to just keep it clean if you will.
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Can someone email me this time when we all pack up and leave?
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You actually think this board would splinter over Rocco's banning? :lol:
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Rocco, don't try and spin your mistakes, and don't try to claim you did nothing wrong. You knowingly sent NSFW material, unflagged, to Cletus in the hopes that he'd get in trouble (you mentioned hoping that his mum would be around to see him looking at gay porn).

Holy shit, I just realised something. Rocco just called Cletus' mum a homophobe. That's pretty offensive and uncalled for. You don't insult someone's mum, that's just not cool.
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I guess this sort of stuff was only a matter of time... :D
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There's a Freemason's forum? When did this happen?
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Next one down from the classics forum?I know you can see it.

I think you can even do the secret handshake that lets you in.
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Talez wrote:You actually think this board would splinter over Rocco's banning? :lol:
Do I need to fucken put smilies on every fucken post? :x

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Re: Attention: Games Ranch Moderators & Members

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Rocco wrote:I understand the initial bigotry comments made by Cletus were according to him to “troll” and “bait”, but frankly I must ask, isn’t there anything better for Cletus to do then slam my personal life in a public forum just so he can pop a boner for a successful online troll, especially if he is indeed a moderator?
No.
By the same dickhead
Should I also maybe post some anti-semitic propaganda and visual material including the highly notorious swastika imbedded Star of David to individually attack Jewish members of GR (and there are quite a few), or to a higher degree of lameness, mock GR members with obesity issues who had previously discussed their weight concerns at other forums?
No because you couldn't make it funny.
Being bicurious,he can't seem to stop himself
Though I find it distressing that Cletus has any form of power within this wonderfully developed forum, I also have to declare that the moderators of this forum have failed to control this matter and recognise that some things just shouldn’t be allowed to occur, a basic principle even the moderators at PlayNOW! are fully aware of, when they properly managed such situations.
I think the way things have been handled works perfectly for me.
The old "I probably shouldn't have murdered children and stole their dirty underwear but they deserved it" routine begins

Though I do agree that I possibly did overreact, I will NOT be leaving this forum, as other then this incident and a prior episode with Candy Arse/Megaman, my time here has been fantastic and trouble free. I understand some members may now proceed to call me a “faggot” or “poofter” to bait me
You're a Faggot or Poofter
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Would that be a Paggot? Or a Foofter?
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Post by Azaria Chamberlain »

I have PM'd my support to Rocco. I think you guys are mean and Cletus is wrong to mention anything about Rocco being BICURIOUS. WOW HE LIKES IT BOTH WAYS SO WHAT? He should be able to mention it anytime he likes and not have a difference of opinion even insinuated near him.

He should be able to like anything or mention any personal thing about himself on the internet to strangers without any fear of lighthearted humour aimed in his sexy direction.


PM rocco you're support if you think cletus is wrong. I did!
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Don't believe everything you read Azaria, the media lies, you of all people know that.
This is no different.

But your Hitler comment is interesting.

I think one man is being persecuted for being honest about who he is and how he interacts with the world. I see one man acting like an evil fanatic to work up the masses against the persecuted man.

But nobody wants to join Rocco in his witch hunt.
In this the Hitler comparison may be more apt.

Hitler was also Bicurious which furthers the similarities.
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You're all banned.
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Post by Azaria Chamberlain »

why am i hearing a rumour that there are images of rocco posted on a gay websites and there are doctored images making it look like he is having sex with animals? who has the photoshop skills to do that?
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Re: Attention: Games Ranch Moderators & Members

Post by unfnknblvbl »

Rocco wrote:I
I of course had no idea what I had stumbled into with my snooping, but tell me Cletus & gang, shall I now expose this high profile GR member’s identify, link everyone to his blog and personally begin to ridicule him for my own amusement and fun session of “trolling” and “baiting”?
Yeah, go on then, do it!

Oh wait, I don't care... it's a public website, and anybody is free to read it if they so desire. It's my life, and that's how I deal with my issues. If you hunt around the place, you'll find the grisly details of a couple of relationship breakdowns I've had in the past few months, and you'll also find the long battle I've had with Depression.

It's all what makes me the person I am, and if you want to troll me about that, then feel free. I don't know how you expect to get any sort of reaction from me out of it though.

You, on the other hand, took Cletus's bait, hook, line and sinker, then went off the deep end about it. It wasn;t even that clever a trap, either, jesus!
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