2006 AFL Grand Final: West Coast vs Sydney

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Who will win?

Poll ended at 30 Sep 2006 10:22 am

West Coast
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Sydney
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Draw
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2006 AFL Grand Final: West Coast vs Sydney

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I thought we better have a proper, dedicated Grand Final thread. Nice article:
The Australian wrote:EVER had that feeling you've been somewhere before? For the AFL, it is a case of same clubs, same time, same channel, as the Swans and West Coast renew their growing September rivalry. But try telling that to 11 footballers preparing to play their first grand final on Saturday.

When Sydney's premiership players were doing their best to take last Friday night's preliminary final win against Fremantle in their stride, Jarrad McVeigh's heart was leaping out of his chest.

This time last year, McVeigh was out of the senior team, Nick Malceski was an emergency, Stephen Doyle was cursing a season-ending ankle injury and Ted Richards was getting plastered with his Essendon team-mates. This Saturday, barring training mishap or the proverbial bus, all will run on to the MCG against the Eagles.

"The boys were fairly business-like, saying there is one more to go," McVeigh said yesterday. "But, deep down inside, I was stoked at the chance to be playing in a grand final so the whole week will be exciting."

In Perth this morning, there are seven Eagles about to fly into the unknown. The last time grand final week came around, Quinten Lynch was sidelined with a groin injury, Brett Jones had torn a quadriceps muscle, Beau Waters hadn't played all year and the experienced midfield pair of Rowan Jones and Michael Braun were hobbling on wonky knees.

Add to that list Steven Armstrong and Jaymie Graham and as much as one third of this week's West Coast team played no part in last year's four-point loss to Sydney.

Braun and Jones were the hard-luck stories of West Coast's 2005 season after injuring themselves in the preliminary final. More to the point, they were sorely missed in a grand final that pitted a talented but inexperienced West Coast midfield against mature, football warriors Jude Bolton, Brett Kirk and Jared Crouch.

Braun watched the game from the confines of the coaches' box. Although he knew all week he wouldn't play, he didn't let his team-mates know until the day of selection.

"I've been playing footy for 10 years and to finally get the chance to run out there is a dream come true," a relieved Braun said after the Eagles held off a hard-finishing Adelaide on Saturday at AAMI Stadium. "It was harrowing. I was quite devastated but I didn't want to make a big deal out of it."

Each new player to this year's rematch must discover for himself how to handle the demands of the week and the match itself. They also bring something fresh to two teams that have evolved significantly since the moment Leo Barry took "that grab" in the dying seconds of last year's grand final.

The Lynch effect is the most obvious. The man with the most famous glove since OJ Simpson leads the West Coast goalkicking and can provide a marking target so desperately lacking from last year's team, when Michael Gardiner played with painkilling injections in his foot.

The midfield exploits of Chris Judd, Ben Cousins and Daniel Kerr mean the importance of Braun and Jones is easily overlooked. But, if you accept the Eagles have built this year's premiership campaign on relentless use of handball, it is Braun and Jones who are leading the way. Jones is the club's most prolific handballer this season and Braun ranks second.

Graham can hold down a key-position forward and two weeks ago played back on Adam Goodes and Richards. He won't start dreaming of the MCG until Thursday, however, when the final teams are read out.

"I'll just be rapt to get in the side," Graham said. "I don't care who I play on or where I play, it will be great to get a berth."

Armstrong, a rookie-listed player at the start of the season, has made an impact off the bench. Waters and Jones are regular members of the West Coast back six and together provide nearly 30 touches a week.

"It is a pretty euphoric feeling," Waters said. "I'm just looking forward to getting to Melbourne.

"I'm not sure what day we get there but I want to soak it all up after missing out on last year."

The changes to Sydney are less dramatic but each new face has important responsibilities.

McVeigh can be used as a free-running midfielder but fulfilled an effective stopping job on Cousins in the qualifying final. Cousins finished that match with just 19 possessions, well down on his season average of 25.

Richards was unable to earn a regular senior game with Essendon but has provided the Swans additional height in their backline and another marking option forward.

Doyle's history of chronic injury makes every senior game a bonus and he has managed the past six for the Swans, playing an average of 40 minutes as a back-up ruckman to Darren Jolly.

Malceski is not a prolific possession winner but there is no player the Swans would rather have kicking the ball inside the 50. Malceski averages 12 kicks a game. Of those, three go inside the attacking arc. Of those, two result in a clean mark and shot on goal.

As both these teams know only too well, premierships are decided by less.
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I can't remember the last time we played the Swans at close to full strength, but the only player missing from our best 22 this time around will be Mark Nicoski, who played for Subiaco in yesterday's WAFL Grand Final (which Subi won by 80-odd points 8) ) but I doubt the Eagles will risk him after missing so much footy.

I want to tip the Eagles by 100 points but between these two teams that's impossible. Less than a kick in it. Two goals either way will be an absolute flogging :wink:

Most important players for the Eagles include Mark Seaby (any rest Cox gets is gold, so if Seaby can hold his own in the ruck it will be excellent), Brett Jones (if he can play well on O'Loughlin, it frees up Mr September Adam Hunter to play deep in attack) and, of course, Quinten Lynch. I'd play him around half forward (like he did against Adelaide) and instruct him to kick long and straight to own the flood. Wind shouldn't be a factor at the MCG like it was at AAMI, so Lynch could be devastating. He plays very well away from Subiaco too, which is important. Steven Armstrong needs to kick some goals to complement his hard work around the ground.

I'm glad I'm not Darren Glass.

We need players willing to sacrifice their game (and their bodies) by getting in front of the Glass/Hall contest. Jaymie Graham perhaps? We've played well the last couple of weeks by being willing to push numbers back, something we failed to do against Sydney in the Qualifying Final.

Sydney fans: if Hunter plays deep in attack, with Lynch and Hansen further out, how will you match up on them if you were Paul Roos?

This is Study Week at uni and I have a couple of essays to write and a few other things that need to be done as well. Longest. Week. EVER :(

A lot of people wrote us off before the season even started (Phil Matera retiring + the booze bus incident) and later on as well (poor midseason form + Gardiner incident + Qualifying Final loss) but we've made it.

I'm tipping the Eagles by 5 points, with Adam Hunter winning the Norm Smith. No excuses this time.
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Sydney :thumbsup:

But really, i couldn't care less.
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Voted West Coast coz I want them to win
But i can't say who WILL win
I guess I'll have to jump on the WC bandwagon just for this weekend....as the majority of my Adelaide born & raised mates here are WC supporters (for reasons them nor I can explain)
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mxlegend99 wrote:Sydney :thumbsup:

But really, i couldn't care less.
My thoughts exactly!
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Sydney will win after another world famous West Coast choke.
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Last year I was all for the Swans, but this year I'm all for the Weagles! :up:
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I've found that usually these rematches end with the same result, but I hope west coast win
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its a real toughy i reckon this year, it'll will be sydneys tough defense that will win it for them or perhaps west coasts strong midfield that will win it for them.....but i'm going for Sydney again this year
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2006 AFL GF
West Coast at $1.75
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The easiest way to beat Sydney is to score more than 5 goals - Sydney just dont attack. Keep one man in the defending 50 and he should be able to mount a solid defense while sydney are flooding the other end with their entire team. And a few runners.

The easiest way to best West Coast is to let them have shots at goal. 19 out of 29 times they'll miss.

I predict a 0-0 draw at full time, with possibly a 1-0 win for West Coast if they move their sole defender forward for the last minute.
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Pat wrote:The easiest way to beat Sydney is to score more than 5 goals - Sydney just dont attack. Keep one man in the defending 50 and he should be able to mount a solid defense while sydney are flooding the other end with their entire team. And a few runners.

The easiest way to best West Coast is to let them have shots at goal. 19 out of 29 times they'll miss.

I predict a 0-0 draw at full time, with possibly a 1-0 win for West Coast if they move their sole defender forward for the last minute.
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Sydney for me. 5th GF in a row that doesnt excite me at all though.
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I was disturbed by the amount of cheers Sydney recieved at the start of the Brownlow count, and the deathly silence that greeted the Eagles :evil:

The same thing happened when Judd and Goodes were spoken to. Once again Quarters was drooling all over poor Rebecca Twigley, and ignored Judd :down:

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Well I am a massive supporter for west coast, so obviously I will be going for them. But I just have this feeling that Sydney seems to be way more in form. Barry is a hard cunt, and so I hope Lynch will be the counterpart for him up the other end to even it out. Our midfield clearly dominates though.
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well since adam goodes won the brownlow he wont be doing to well in the grand final if its anything like in the past
i heard this and i dont know if it is true but players that win the brownlow cant go on to win the grand final lol :lol:
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Go West Coast!

If they win I will be deliriously drunk if they lose I will be drunk.

So either way I look at it I win!
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I'm going for Sydney, because I dislike WC for continuously beating Adelaide :(
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Sydney will win because West Coast are the new Collingwood.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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fantastic!
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hows this for a mad fan, this is what i got told early on in the week so i gotta find out if he's gonna do it or not. A mates brother who lives in perth, but a swans supporter may be flying down for the weekend. The plane ticket and grand final ticket is gonna cost him approx $3,000. He's a nutter but he loves it.
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It's confirmed, West Coast legend FAT BOY will be at the MCG on Saturday!!!

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Madmya wrote:I've found that usually these rematches end with the same result
Rubbish. Since the 1970's its only happened once (Brisbane 02-03 against Collingwood). All the other times the loser in the first Grand Final wins the next one.
Madmya wrote:but I hope west coast win
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:run: ONLY ONE MORE SLEEP TO GO!!! :run:
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