Another school shooting in the States, 18 kids dead.

[GameHED]

Serious question: do you ever suffer from hallucinations, GameHED?

No but I think you guys do lol

[Deef]

Stop pretending our ability to ignore you, which we use all the time, has anything to do with a question about you GameHED. Where did I say "Please GameHED show me how to not read your posts."? Evasion much.

I asked you a question about you. Are you comfortable with saying "I don't care if no-one reads my posts"? I don't need your advice on my rights or whatever evasive tack you hide behind; I'm talking about how you would feel. If you hit submit knowing no-one will read it, how do you feel?

I don't need time to think about that, I'm not the one that cornered himself into defending an obvious lie.

[GameHED]

I don't feel anything. I want people to make decisions for themselves and to question reality.

If that offends you please take responsibility to block the offensiv e stuff or do what I do by ignoring it through scrolling past it.

But don't complain to a third party that you should ban people from forums. This is a form of censorship and the reason this forum was made was because of a great culling of users from playnow who thought the treattment they got was unfair. Now do you get it?

We are living in a fucked up world. The stuff that david icke talks about might seem batshit insane to people who only limit themselves to the 5 senses but others have an awareness that goes beyond that. (they have spiritual entities guiding their actions which cause them to make destructive decisions)

For instance morals seemed to have decayed in the past 50 years and sold to people as "progress". It is not progress, we are merely reverting back to savages from ancient times when people had no respect for themselves.

Eg
http://www.eutimes.net/2009/06/germany- ... y-as-well/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

These are not crazy people making shit up, but truth that needs to be revealed for people living today.

Now I wonder if you will ignore this post? It matters to me that this forum maintains the anticensorship philosophy, but it should also allow anyone to ignore or avoid seeing somethig they don't want to see. And the solution is the ignore function. (Which I was the one who suggested in the first place so everyone could be happy. People who want censaorship can get it without causing everyone else to have to accept censored forum. We as a community are against the idea of thought police which is what makes it different from other places)

The problem is people claim they can't resist ignoring (I think they are ads for big publishers who only want to associate positive feelings with their game so critical comments are seen as threats) so they are working hard to get me banned and it is pissing them off that they can't. Why? Because it would make them hypocrites. They were kicked off playnow unfairly and so this is all a great test for m to see if the people who created the place can stick to the philosphy.

Does that answer the question?

BTW what are your thoughts on Sandy Hook? Do you think the timing of the antigun agenda (to finally weaken the power of the people was timed conveniently to these killings or is it coincidence? I would like serious discussion on it because if tyrants have their way in free nations it will flow on over to here since we are bossed around by these larger countries due to relying on them. As more power flows into fewer and fewer hands, the crazy people at the top of the pyramid get to enforce their will on the freethinking people underneath them. It goes against what most people want and forcing many to now question whether the state is evil, since people today are no happier than in past generations - all changes seems to benefit the few in power, not the interests of the people they must serve.

It is only a matter of time that those in power seek ways to rid themself of honest people who question the legitimacy of this control that was granted them by the masses. But before this happens an awakening must take place so people can understand how it happened. (you voted them in or believed their promises) That is what this is about: training the dumb masses who keep trusting gun grabbers, thought controllers, media manipulators, nuke-equiped zionist shills, and baby killing left wig extremists who think childbirth being painful is a reason to kill children. (fact is the bible sees rearing children as punishment for disobedience. just take the pain and stop questioning the wisdom of supreme beings.)

The people who think society is better off without freedom are taking away all the things brave people fought hard for in wars. You guys are disgraces to humankind for cheating your own children of freedom that was paid for in blood.

[GameHED]

russia today interview with alex jones:

(seek to 15:40 to get to the alex jones bit)

this is why people are getting ready for a SHTF event and so desperate for guns. (preppers)

They knew tyranny was coming long before gun laws came in. People who live in third world countries actually more prepared for disasters than the people in cities in first world because they at least are not used to modern conveniences and conditioned to expect help. When violent people start to attack honest people the government is not going to protect those guys, only elites. So it is up to individuals to control of thier own life and ignore governments who are letting bad people get away with crime. You can't expect outlaws who break oaths to enforce the rule of law. They have seperate law for themselves and another set for everyone else. (which they see as cattle)

One thing I've noticed these guys don't talk much about is the spiritual dark forces guiding these tyrants. It seems they are unaware that the occult world has been planning this for hundreds of years. (it is part of a armageddon script) The primary targets are countries that have judeo-christian abrahamic god. The Nephilim want revenge for defeat in ancient times. ie When they were hunted down by israel spies in old testament biblical times, and also in the history of other cultures - american indians for example have history of killing race of six-fingered giants. Look for steve quayle's book on giants in history. The spirits of these beings are returning and they hate the human race, and historically they were cannibals. (read book of enoch for information) When seen by the indians they were thought of as far more advanced than other normal sized whites, so it is possible the nephilim going underground have trained the men of today all the technology they knew of.

[guttermouth]

http://readersupportednews.org/news-sec ... iation-day" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[GameHED]

I stopped reading after this bit:

In response to a renewed push for sensible reforms of gun laws after the tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut, groups like the National Rifle Association and the founders of Gun Appreciation Day have instead advocated for an increase in the number of guns in public places like elementary schools, arguing - falsely - that more guns will mean more protection for individuals.

Accidents with guns will happen. Does not mean the gun owners have to ban themselves from having guns just because accidents happen. Otherwise we can ban alcohol where drunken men beat their wives, pools where kids drown, cars that run people over, pharmaceuticals that have dangerous side effects, and stunt drivers who can still die in risky jobs despite training.

The logic does not hold up libs. You fail to understand the importance of defending yourself from tyrants.

Here is a intelligent man on info wars explaining where the true power of the constitution comes from: (protip: not from government, not from the president, not from a single famous figure in history)

So long as the government tries to ban the gun it will only result in more people wanting guns because they know something very fishy is up for them to want to ban them in the first place.

When people found out the government was going to ban it the sales of guns went up out of fear they would not be able to access them. So you see like the drug issue, it will only force it to go underground. But while that is happening there will be above ground resistence by freedom fighters who will fight tooth and nail for freedom.

Once you get used to having it, you can't go back. The reason australia doesn't give a fuck about freedom is because we live under the protection of other nations so we are pretty much a colony. But when you have had to fight wars and keep that freedom, having your freedom being taken means a great deal. That's what this is about. Sure within the progun crowd there are idiots but that is not going to change the opinions of the 2nd amendment advocate. You've awakened a sleeping giant.

Without guns you are letting corporations and government rape your ass. This is why some predict waco like incident in future. They are getting organised now. They know the agenda. It is just a matter of getting as many liberals to convert to pro-gun ideals by educating them on guns from the perspective of people who respect it and don't abuse them. (much like warriors trained with sword to guard people or martial artists who know self defence and condition their body to be a weapon. They do not recklessly go around killing people because they are disciplined)

If a person respects human life, they should be allowed to have weapons to protect their own life against those who don't have respect for it. Governments kill people. Trust in the rule of law not in the rule of men. The left needs to be educated in what real liberty means starting from their children so the next gen can continue fighting the tyrants who are desperate to have a monopoly on force. If an unarmed man has no gun he can still kill by slitting your throat or more indirect means like poisoning you or strangling you. But the gun is a equaliser because an older person or a weak man or a women who feels vulnerable (perhaps because of a pack rape attempt by gang in the past) can still defend themselves without physical strength. (taking up martial art is out of the question for them and not covenient. Pulling a trigger is)

If powerful and rich people do not want to give up armed guards or give up their right to carry a weapon, then they have no business telling others to give up theirs. There are some people in this world who do not do things for money but have principles and live their lives by them. These are the ones that you will have a hard time convincing. This is a battle of ideas and the best one will always win.

The only way you will get people to give up weapons is if the people telling others to give them up, actually lead by example in the same way Jesus did when he taught people how to live in a peaceful way.

[Deef]

I don't feel anything.

Then explain this:

I want...

For probably the 5th time, the question was about you. You wrote just one sentence that actually responds to the question, contradicted yourself immediately, then spent the rest of your post pushing it as far away from you as possible. The only one who has talked about censoring you so far, is you, so get over it. Stop pretending my question is about something else so you can avoid thinking about it.

You skip the point I keep making; it's not what, but how you write. It doesn't matter what the topic is; if one can't breathe and talk at the same time they sound like they're 4 years old. That's why I challenge you to state whether you care about any of your stuff being read. I assume you are smarter than a 4 year old. So please, untangle your contradiction above.

[GameHED]

No I don't care about the stuff being read by those who don't want to read it. For those who do read it, you have to read it to know if you want to read it. It's like watching a porno.

I guess if you hate the sex acts in the porno you might think, "that shit offends me because I hate the ugly actress in it so I am not going to continue to watch it." And then turn it off. But you would not know if you liked the porno if you didn't try it first to find out.

I guess that is where I sit. I think people must read things to see if the content is for them first. And then use the ignore features when they want in order to empower themselves. So let's say I am talking about reptilians and a person has seen a reptilian, that person might have found the idea of reptilians repugnant and ignored my posts in the past. But then when they went on a camping trip and found a witches coven or some secret society gathering together in the woods to perform a secret ritual where people could shapeshift into beast form (due to knowledge obtained from ancient scrolls found in remote areas of the world), they started to take an interest in occult activity and decide later to read posts talking about reptilians.

This is when I care that people read it. Because maybe it will help you in future to prepare you for what people call "Skin Walkers". These are beings the indgenous communites accept as real because they witness these strange paranormal activities first hand but nobody believes them until they witness it themselves. (white people mainly. With the exception of people living out in remote areas as farmers away from the cities)


Does that answer the question? I will help you to get to know my thinking behind censorship so long as you keep it civil. But being rude I will scroll past your questions and refuse to answer. You come here because you enjoy being part of a community. If you don't like that community nobody is forcing you to be here. Follow the rules and we will all get along just fine. But if you act like a crazy person (example denying that the government lies to the public) and don't want to look at the topic intelligently then you deserve to be ridiculed and ignored.
There are many people realising that the government has cheated them of

-property
-rights
-freedom

Queensland is one of the first:

You guys are all going to follow soon as the globalists empire expands into every area of your life to make your existence a living hell. They do not care what you think, only that you maintain zombie-like consciousness levels so they can obtain some use out of your labor if it fits their plans. I'm here to prepare the aussies who are dumb and just believe governments will solve problems for you instead of be on the take of the reptilians who have untold amount of ill-gotten wealth from years of plotting the destruction of humanity.

The UN is part of this plot to rape the whites of their own land and property and rights much like the whites did to the abbos. (gun owners are white guys so obama is arming gangs from foreign nations to kill the locals and hoping people don't notice the communist plot to destroy american morals and traditions. But he is a puppet which is why complaining about him is pointless)

Much of the conspiracy goes back to ancient times when the Tower of Babel was destroyed and the occultists had to go underground and use symbols to hide their language after all the languages were transformed to stop them rising up and forming a global tyranny. Today the plotters of this ancient conspiracy are back again while people are in a sleep state and after years of dumbing down and control over media to disinform the public. They are accelerating this plan to destroy humanity because more people are waking up. (gun owners in america have been warned by australians who already had their guns successfully confiscated)
eg:

Alex Jones came prepared for debates because many are fighting this plot to bring in communist dictatorship (socialism being the lite form of communism) and are against having property stolen by governments because it only aids rogues in power.
Not ALL government workers are bad people, but the seperation of powers is what allows people to maintain control over a rogue government. So this gun grab issue is a very serious threat to liberty.

Many LEO (law enforcement officers) are against gun grabbing because they can't garuantee to get to you in time. Holding a robber at gunpoint and calling the police is how most responsible people would deal with a robber, thief, rapist. But if you have no gun, the criminal will have the freedom to run away easily and escape. By the time the police reach you it will be too late. You would be dead, wounded, tied up, beaten etc.

It's not the governments responsibility to tell you what your rights are. It is your responsibility to know your rights (read your bible) and exercise it. Think of the crooks in power as a test by God to see if you studied hard. If you gave away rights that were not to be given away then you deserve to be living under the authority of tyrants because you failed the test. So ALWAYS question authorities and aks them where the authority they think is coming from. This way a cop will have to question himself and look it up and then question whether it is in the best interests of the people or government. Then when he goes home he can become stronger in knowledge of the law. This is what is happening now as more people start to question the legitimacy of the government's powers. (not many people even knew that queensland = corporation that does not answer to the people - they celebrate by flag waving and don't even understand what liberty is... because they have been dumbed down!)

[Deef]

Despite me repeating for the nth time that it wasn't the question, you have again replied by talking about how to ignore GameHED. Unless you can point out where I once asked that, which you can't, your first three paragraphs are good to delete. Take my question at face value instead of whatever it is you're defensive about, and ask yourself how many times you need a person to repeat something. I don't really care if you confuse trying to get you to focus with not being civil.

Having said that, I also have no problem with telling you that you write like an idiot, because you write posts that are just ridiculous to digest and you pretend to have no clue why. I keep saying, it's not the content that's the problem. On the topic of things I don't care about: you replying. You're not replying for my sake I hope, and you're welcome to stop.

So amid the mess of another over-inflated GameHED post, we have your 4th paragraph.

This is when I care that people read it. Because maybe it will help you in future to prepare you for what people call "Skin Walkers".

Thank you for 2 sentences that are actually on point amidst another sea of evasion. Several hundred words and 50 minutes of video which you know no-one is going to watch, for 2 sentences. So don't tell me your posts aren't terrible.

In response to those 2 sentences, I ask you: You write because you care that people are prepared for some upcoming danger? Any other reasons?

[Gamma]

(perhaps because of a pack rape attempt by gang in the past)

[GameHED]

recently another high profile 2nd amendment supporter was murdered. Chris Kyle, who wrote American Sniper. He was the guy that claimed the Jesse Ventura punched him in a bar - I remember this on opie and anthony show. He was pro gun and obviously was shot by one of the nwo puppets.

It looks like there is a big purge against anyone with a big fanbase who is pro-gun so the public opinion can be controlled towards antigun side. 3 pro gun people dead already. Definite conspiracy to destroy the people that are trying to put the armed guards in gun free zones to get the shooters before they can succeed in killing kids.

These anti gun people make me sick. Thank god many liberals are taking the side of pro-gun side and believe in the importance of defense. (piers morgan himself actually admitted he lost the gun debate) It's not just "rednecks" who are pro second amendment but people who have served in the military and are responsible individuals who know restraint. (like I said if a woman who has been raped in the past by some gangs wants to have a gun, who is the government to deny them their god given right to defend themselves and treat them like a criminal? Notice how it is always the assumption that wanting a gun is a man thing? There are lots of legit reason for wanting to arm yourself in a world that is corrupt and with white collar criminals who can hire others to kill others and make it look like an accident or blame the person they control to do the killing for them because they have blackmailed them or that person is afraid of what might happen to their family if they don't listen. The world is not ready to trust governments. Especially ones that can use drones to assassinate anyone they want. If anti-gun figures want safety, get rid of murderers period. It's not going to happen because even sane people will do a crazy thing in the right circumstances.

Deef: continue reading or not reading I think this is the most important issue facing the world: As government tries to crack down on weapons the next stage after financial collapse is rounding up people in camps. They see everyone else as zombies and the government is buying hollow point bullets in anticipation of zombie apocalypse when they poison the public with a virus that makes them go insane. (bath salts zombie = the experiment. CDC warning of zombie is the clue)
Please block the posts if you don't want to read them due to thinking they are too long or not easy to read. I really don't care. You are against the message and obviously angry that I have no regard for your presence in any important topic. Please don't take it personaly as I just odn't have the time for a conversation with you. I prefer reading a lot. Whether you think I am lying, I don't mind. You are entitled to your opinions. That is why I like coming here. People claim they are putting people they hate on ignore but then respond to the posts. LOL Biggest hypocrites ever. Too bad you can't ban me from here.

I can tell the anger in your post by this so I will cease challenging you in the debate about whether or not I answered the question:

Having said that, I also have no problem with telling you that you write like an idiot

.....then please do not read it. In fact don't even come to the forums if it bothers you so much. That is the point of self censorship. You get to ignore the idiots and the idiots get to ignore the people that don't like the idiots. This means everyone is happy. The question has been answered and you got angry at the answers. Not my fault you can't read. And yes reptilians and skin walkers are part of the whole topic too. The people trying to rape the freedom of the good guys are actually into the occult lore. The power they get comes from the demonic world. See the superbowl for all the occult symbolism. They are using rituals to implant their will upon the masses of hypnotised sheeple. And this is why people see tringle and pyramids on logos and in movies. The movies like Kubrick's 2001 is a perfect example of this where the whole movie is full of occult symbolism designed to have a hidden meaning that other occultists understand. And the obvious message in the movie is for the non-occultist. Listen to William Cooper's old radio show archives on the descriptions of these symbols. It dovetails with the new age movement. (madam blavatsky, anie besant, alice bailey etc who were involved in the occult teachings and steered hitler towards the occultic NWO goal of a 1000 years of reign of socialist dictatorship. Now it is coming to america and the cycle of banning guns is repeating.)

No one is safe once robots actually get smart enough to replace humans. Agenda 21 I predict will be complete after humans are killed off in concentration camps and the labor is done by autonomous machines. You are seeing this happen now with combat. Drones are risk free method of killing so now killing things is much less a hassle. It just requires a tiny effort to push a button not risk their own life. Now the drones are getting so tiny they can be used to kill with more and more stealth:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... lance.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.examiner.com/article/tiny-in ... s-military" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


choose your side.

[Peppermint Lounge]

The US constitution third amendment reads 'No Soldier shall in time of peace be quartered in any house without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law'.

Such is the modern day relevance of their second amendment.

[GameHED]

One of the most important books for people to read:
http://www.wanttoknow.info/war/tragedy_ ... 1090pg.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Chapter 74 of Quigley's book (explains how authoritarian systems come into power after guns are taken away from the masses but a democratic system is more likely when power is distributed equally (ie amatuer easy-to-use weapos in the hands of the average joe who doesn't require expert training or knowledge in how to use the weapon):

Chapter 74—The Unfolding of Time
The political conditions of the latter half of the twentieth century will continue to be
dominated by the weapons situation, for, while politics consists of much more than
weapons, the nature, organization, and control of weapons is the most significant of the
numerous factors that determine what happens in political life. Surely weapons will
continue to be expensive and complex. This means that they will increasingly be the tools
of professionalized, if not mercenary, forces. All of past history shows that the shift from
a mass army of citizen-soldiers to a smaller army of professional fighters leads, in the
long run, to a decline of democracy. When weapons are cheap and easy to obtain and to
use, almost any man may obtain them, and the organized structure of the society, such as
the state, can obtain no better weapons than the ordinary, industrious, private citizen. This
very rare historical condition existed about 1880, but is now only a dim memory, since
the weapons obtainable by the state today are far beyond the pocketbook, understanding,
or competence of the ordinary citizen.
When weapons are of the "amateur" type of 1880, as they were in Greece in the fifth
century B.C., they are widely possessed hy citizens, power is similarly dispersed, and no
minority can compel the majority to yield to its will. With such an "amateur weapons
system" (if other conditions are not totally unfavorable), we are likely to find majority
rule and a relatively democratic political system. But, on the contrary, when a period can
be dominated by complex and expensive weapons that only a few persons can afford to
possess or can learn to use, we have a situation where the minority who control such
"specialist" weapons can dominate the majority who lack them. In such a society, sooner or later, an authoritarian political system that reflects the inequality in control of weapons
will be established.
At the present time, there seems to be little reason to doubt that the specialist weapons
of today w ill continue to dominate the military picture into the foreseeable future. If so, there is little reason to doubt that authoritarian rather than democratic political regimes
will dominate the world into the same foreseeable future. To be sure, traditions and other
factors may keep democratic systems, or at least democratic forms, in many areas, such
as the United States or England. To us, brought up as we were on a democratic ideology,
this may seem very tragic, but a number of perhaps redeeming features in this situation
may well be considered.

^
The bold bits in the text is why I think the reptilians need your guns. Before they can have total monopoly of force (through pro-nwo government workers) they need to disarm the private citizen. Katrina = proof of this plot to disarm the citizens to keep the power centralised ie in the hands of the few. When that happens(happening now in small increments) authoritarian systems come into play in politics. (the jews were disarmed in WWII before being killed)

People who actually read books and study history know better. The "gun-nut/redneck" is a lot smarter than piers morgan/gun grabbers on this issue. The writings of the elites shows this if they would take the time to read the books.

I think the book should be taught in schools to educate kids about the reality of guns(easy to use weapons) in society whenever there is a debate about them in the hands of the law abiding gun owners. (as opposed to media's focus on criminals who are outlaws that will most likely have stolen the weapon and have no respect for others - seriously parents need to ban tv so the future generation is not brainwashed by the lizards)

In the future you will start to hear more demonisation of veterens in the mainstream media who fought for the nation and will most likely be angry at the government for being forced to fight for so long. These will probably be put into mental institutions to keep them from talking about their experiences unless the message they have to say in the various books they write or movies they create is pro-nwo. (ie give guns only to police or soldiers that like killing for the government, not private owners who are pro-constitutional)

One of the tools they can use is the white guy vs black guy trick where they paint all gun owners as white people trying to enslave blacks with weapons. Very sneaky. Blacks have always been portrayed in movies as drug addicted street thugs, rapists (see judge dredd movie) or gang members. This is to keep them down so there is a natural fear of them by whites, which then allows the illuminati to turn the fear/hate by both sides into fights in politics. Black people vote for obama and whites for ron paul. If both sides stand together, this tactic can't work so they need to keep up the fear through media. (ie most of the bad guys in judge dredd being evil)

[Candy Arse]

I wonder if GameHED realises that he literally has no audience here.

The people that have read his posts now have him on ignore. The people who don't have him on ignore are pretty quick with their mouse's scroll wheel.

[GameHED]

You keep saying you ignore the posts but post in them every single time they are active. So I don't believe you.
I've explained this countless times: What you say and how you act are two completely different things. LOL

A true ignore is when you actually avoid the posts instead of responding each time a new post is made that boosts the topic up.

This behavior shows you want to argue with the poster by helping to keep it active. Even if you ignore my post you clicked on the topic to find out if anyone else is posting in the debate. That means you have enough free time to see what others are responding too when trying to participate.

You see how stupid you just made yourself look by posting about GameHED? By actually mentioning me you unknowingly brought energy to it. It would have worked if you had simply not even responded or clicked. But coming into the topic shows your interest in the topic or the poster who most recently added a new post to it.

It's like free advertising everytime you say how you ignore things by posting in the very thread you can't avoid clicking. LOL

One tactic people use is to post how they have posts on ignore and post a screencap, ...but that proves you were putting energy into the response which is not truly ignoring. (ie avoiding it completely) True ignore is scrolling beyond it and not chatting. If you actually chatted about how you ignored the post it means you knew it was there and clicked on the active topic.
A true ignore would be me not looking at what goes on in thread like the phone game thread or avoiding threads with spoilers. Fake ignore is when people pretend they are not looking in the thread but post screen caps of ignore function being used.
I simply don't believe I'm being ignored because the people that keep saying it always respond only when I am posting something. You know you are unable to ignore so you feel you have to "prove" you are ignoring by going to so much effort as to post about it. That means you went into the thread, clicked to see the next new post, and spent time to respond. It's not ignoring. It's showing interest.

an example:
I asked Deef if he thought the timing of the antigun push was very suspicious (happens right after sandy hook massacre and the antigun laws were made before this massacre and timed perfectly to capitalise on the tradgedy) and he didn't respond. That is how you ignore. He kept asking me questions about whether I care if people read, I responded to his posts. That is chatting because I kept the conversation going. I answered his question but he won't answer mine. (maybe doesn't like talking about gun issues - that is understandable. Maybe he feel threatened by them or maybe a family member of neighbour or friend was shot by an armed robber or something and doesn't like to talk about guns. Whatever the reason, he has the right to ignore. )

True ignore: scrolling past and not giving energy to discussion.
Fake ignore: constantly responding about how GameHED is aware that he is on ignore list after new posts made by me are there. (in others words hoping I see it, proving that you know I had made a new post) Then posting a screencap to "prove" that they can't see a post. Yet later talking to me.
If you ignore it, why would you go to the effort to prove it right after I make posts. It means you are noticing some activity, show enough interest in the topic to click on it, and hope that I see you in the thread which is showing you are aware of posts I make and failing to ignore the posts.
The serious posters may want to hear both sides of the story:
could the massacres be staged because only gun-free zones seem to have massacres and it doesn't make logical sense to leave them unguarded if the killers target those specific areas.

The start of this thread is an anti-american rant about how america is a dangerous society (which it is but guns are not the only facotr) but it fails to focus in on where these killings occur. (mostly unguarded areas where people can't even shoot back, and if you try to you are doing something illegal for having a weapon to defend yourself with)

I'm helping to educate them by looking at both sides of the debate because I believe if kids could fire back to save their life they might have survived. (or at least have armed retired cops in plain clothes at the school if the people are too afraid of guns to hold it themselves)
When the government needs young people to go and kill for the elites as soldiers they are happy to have killers with weapons. But when they fight to defend themselves, they are "dangerous"?
It doesn't add up.

[Ambrose Burnside]

"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future." - Adolph Hitler 1935

Fraudulent quotations attributed to Hitler and other Third Reich leaders have been widely circulated for years. Such quotes are often used by polemicists -- of both the left and the right -- to discredit their ideological adversaries by showing that Nazis held similar views. This tactic works because people have been educated to believe that anything Hitler and other Nazi leaders thought or said was malevolent, wrong-headed or evil, and that no reasonable or ethical person could hold similar views.

Hitler and Gun Control

In a speech, sometimes said to have been delivered in 1935, Hitler is supposed to have exclaimed: "This year will go down in history! For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"

This quote has been popular with Americans who defend the constitutional right to "keep and bear arms." It's cited to discredit those who support restrictions on firearms ownership and use. It's also cited to support the often-made charge that Hitler and his government curtailed gun ownership in Germany, and confiscated weapons held by private citizens.

The truth is rather different. When Hitler and his National Socialist Party took power in early 1933, they inherited a somewhat restrictive firearms law that the liberal-democratic "Weimar" government had enacted five years earlier. In 1938 Hitler's government revised the earlier law by loosening those restrictions, thereby enhancing the rights of Germans to own weapons. The most thorough confiscation of firearms ever imposed on Germans was carried out at the end of the Second World War by the occupation forces of the United States and other victorious Allied powers.

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[GameHED]

I stopped reading your quote at this point:

This tactic works because people have been educated to believe that anything Hitler and other Nazi leaders thought or said was malevolent, wrong-headed or evil, and that no reasonable or ethical person could hold similar views.

the nazis commited genocide and killed jews, and many minorities after they were disarmed and unable to fight back against the tyrant. The same people today that want to take guns are painting veterens as evil terrorists who must be locked up into mental institution in case they become criminals. ("guilty until proven innocent" much?)

This is why people in america seem dangerous. Yeah they are dangerous because the criminals can use the gun to kill innocent people. But the innocent people have guns as a backup for fighting against evil when it is done from a top level. (evil exists in government as well as in individuals too - fight the evil not the tool which is neutral)
Evil is evil. Don't try to make excuses for dictators. These people think they are superior to everyone else which is why they feel the right to deny other people of the liberties they want to have.
The cold hard fact is hitler was involved in the occult. (considered evil by americans who fought and died so they couldn't be invaded) So are the elites in politics who are working towards the building of world government (or governance) so that all weapons are in the hands of some central global authority which conflicts with the constitution which gives sovereignty to the people.
I believe what is going to happen is there will be 1000 years of peace in the Kingdom of God in Heaven for people with jewish and christian belief (this is known as the rapture when believers in God are going to disappear for a wedding ceremony in heaven, the occultists actually believe in the disappearance and have a unique explanation for it) and during that 1000 years of peace in heaven there will be 1000 years of satanic rule on earth. (I believe that to be the "new age") After 1000 years in heaven (God will have given people new bodies to fight in preparation to fight the bad guys) Jesus will bring his warriors from heaven at the second coming to judge the guys on earth and before he emereges the military will be used to kill God. But they will end up losing and then heaven and earth will be remade.

You have to look into the book of reveleations to understand the prophetic symbolism. Many christians debate the details but it is known that a fake peace is going to come down in the guise of helping people but it is preparing people for mass deception. (eg the UN right now is confiscating land under agenda 21 from farmers possibly to create food shortage to kill us all off - lord monkton is exposing this conspiracy. They want to say it is for saving the environment but it is really to control the human population under the guise of helping us) The more the globalists try to control people the more chance of violence in future as people must compete for resources of the planet. Much like animals in the jungle fighting for food and territory.

If you want to know more about the rapture do a search for The most Banned book - Two Raptures. It looks at the rapture as being a multiple raptures and why this could be possible. (not all christian agree about the topic of rapture but the 3 most popular views are pre-trib, post-trib and mid-trib rapture. The book looks at an alternative fourth view)
Demonic activity will basically rise up faster and faster (this will be explained by the new agers as the opening of the third eye) as the holy spirit is taken out of the way.
The events go like this:
-The holy spirit will stop restraining demonic activity.
-there will be falling away of believers. (maybe the healing powers are not working at this time)
-the antichrist will rise up (declaring himself the savior and proving it with miracles)
-3.5 years into this guys rule (the start of the 7 year "tribulation period") the mid-trib rapture occurs giving him no reason to pretend to be good guy to convert people to satanism
-from now on he starts going evil (sith lord taking off his disguise) and there will be chaos.
-end of the world. (armageddon as the bad people are harvested for "wine" by crushing them like grapes to make wine - this is biblical symbol of the blood pouring out of dead bodies. angels vs demons. Satan is judged.)
-new earth created after all the nukes and destruction of the planet. (too many bad guys on the current one) This is when Jesus sets up an Kingdom that can never end. (4 previous empires all fell. All empires in history fall. It's because man is imperfect and has lack of morals. This is the TRUE capstone on the top of the pyramid. Notice that whoever built the pyramid did not complete the last part? Same with tower of babel. God is anti global government because no man is fit to rule it. You are being restrained up until a certain time when he lets you, and only as a test to see who are loyal to him by making followers go through test by letting the world tempt them. Overcoming this = rewarded with a crown.)

[Ambrose Burnside]

I found this Hitler quote:

"Listen to GameHED! Everything he says is the truth!" - Adolf Hitler 1935

Shit, Hitler "said" it, I better do and believe the exact opposite!

[GameHED]

I found this Hitler quote:

"Listen to GameHED! Everything he says is the truth!" - Adolf Hitler 1935

Shit, Hitler "said" it, I better do and believe the exact opposite!

What you do is up to you. But governments stealing your property is evil. Stealing is evil. The bible says it. And everyone has God given rights that they want to protect and they are only guaranteed if they can keep it. That means you have to fight for those rights or the lizards will come up with sneaky justification for why being free is bad for society. (they are collectivists and believe in hive mind system because they benefit from it not the people being controlled by it)

If you don't fight for shit you deserve enslavement. Even if hitler didn't say it, (which I find no evidence for, notice how the sources all point back to "Mark Weber" LOL sourcing himself) I bet you believe it because you just want to hurt the freedoms of other people without thinking about the consequences. (maybe you like to attack gun owners out of jealousy because you are frightened by independent people?) Centralisation of power is wrong. There is a reason you have a seperation of powers in free system you idiot. It's to prevent abuse of power.

Also keep in mind that german had bans on guns(regardless of what you think of this particular quote which I have now had to change for you):

Straightdope source so you don't think I am only using pro-gun source:
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/rea ... -ownership" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That said, and a bit tangential to this question (but I'd hate to leave something out AGAIN), Cramer says the Nazis did benefit significantly from gun control in Eastern Europe in terms of "the inability of their victims to fight back." He cites The Holocaust, a book by Leni Yahil (translated by Ina Friedman and Haya Galai, Oxford University Press, 1990), which has a chapter discussing armed resistance by Jews, including rebellions with just a few firearms and a lot of courage. In addition, he talks about Israel Guttman's book, Resistance: The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, which discusses the difficulty the Jews faced in obtaining weapons.

Cramer believes that "if the population of Eastern Europe were as well armed as the average American, the Nazis would have lost much of their military capacity attempting to implement the Holocaust." I'm not sure I'd go that far, but it's certainly difficult to have an uprising without weapons.

What about Germany proper? According to a review by David B. Kopel of the book Lethal Laws, by Jay Simkin, Aaron Zelman, & Alan M. Rice, and available from Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, the law already in place required a permit to obtain guns or ammunition, and another to carry a gun. (This was not the book referenced by Cramer above--that one is Gun Control: Gateway to Tyranny, J.E. Simkin & A. Zelman, 1992, also available from JPFO.) Guns were required to have serial numbers, and anybody owning one without a serial number had to have one stamped on it. Permitting was mostly left up to the police. Permits were only given to people of "undoubted reliability" who demonstrated a "need" for a gun. The law made it easy for Hitler to make sure his opponents couldn't get permits and thus had no access to firearms.

When the Nazis enacted their own law in 1938, they added restrictions aimed at Jews, such as not allowing Jews to work in any business involving guns. They also prohibited those under eighteen from buying guns, added yet another permit for handguns, and banned silencers and small hollow-point ammunition. Of course, Nazi officials were exempted from all gun permits. Later that year, after "Kristallnacht," Hitler forbade Jews to possess pretty much any weapons.

To summarize, Hitler did "effect total gun control," but only for the Jews, and only after his regime had been in power for several years. For the rest of the population he relied on laws already in place.

the start of gun control is a sign that the politicians in power want to kill you since that is what hitler needed to do with the jews.

It is all part of a bigger plan by occultists who plan for 3 world wars to divide the world up to fight against itself and through the fighting use the weapons made from war to eventually enslave us through a single world government. Much like the One Ring in LOTR to split up the fellowship party to weaken them up enough so they kill each other. It was a plan by Adam Weishapt.

The middle east is important for setting up the rule of the antichrist who will be able to bring peace despite being part of the evil. (watch star wars ep 1 2 3 - the droid army and clone soldier both work for the sith lord/palpatine and the weapons from the wars get used against the peaceful jedi/republicans which after their death allows for the building of a empire in place of a free republic - george lucas probably telling us something)

The only reason people don't blow each other up is the fear of dying from nukes outweighing the need to control the globe. But that is why the elite have underground cities so that when everyone else is dead they get to emerge from hiding after everyone else is dead. That doesn't mean they can't still have these small scale war involving the normal weapons in the meantime to obtain control. (war on terror = more excuse to keep military industrial complex going, and to demonise resistence to nwo - ie pro-constitutional people)

[Candy Arse]

You keep saying you ignore the posts but post in them every single time they are active. So I don't believe you.
I've explained this countless times: What you say and how you act are two completely different things. LOL

A true ignore is when you actually avoid the posts instead of responding each time a new post is made that boosts the topic up.

This behavior shows you want to argue with the poster by helping to keep it active. Even if you ignore my post you clicked on the topic to find out if anyone else is posting in the debate. That means you have enough free time to see what others are responding too when trying to participate.

You see how stupid you just made yourself look by posting about GameHED? By actually mentioning me you unknowingly brought energy to it. It would have worked if you had simply not even responded or clicked. But coming into the topic shows your interest in the topic or the poster who most recently added a new post to it.

It's like free advertising everytime you say how you ignore things by posting in the very thread you can't avoid clicking. LOL

One tactic people use is to post how they have posts on ignore and post a screencap, ...but that proves you were putting energy into the response which is not truly ignoring. (ie avoiding it completely) True ignore is scrolling beyond it and not chatting. If you actually chatted about how you ignored the post it means you knew it was there and clicked on the active topic.
A true ignore would be me not looking at what goes on in thread like the phone game thread or avoiding threads with spoilers. Fake ignore is when people pretend they are not looking in the thread but post screen caps of ignore function being used.
I simply don't believe I'm being ignored because the people that keep saying it always respond only when I am posting something. You know you are unable to ignore so you feel you have to "prove" you are ignoring by going to so much effort as to post about it. That means you went into the thread, clicked to see the next new post, and spent time to respond. It's not ignoring. It's showing interest.

an example:
I asked Deef if he thought the timing of the antigun push was very suspicious (happens right after sandy hook massacre and the antigun laws were made before this massacre and timed perfectly to capitalise on the tradgedy) and he didn't respond. That is how you ignore. He kept asking me questions about whether I care if people read, I responded to his posts. That is chatting because I kept the conversation going. I answered his question but he won't answer mine. (maybe doesn't like talking about gun issues - that is understandable. Maybe he feel threatened by them or maybe a family member of neighbour or friend was shot by an armed robber or something and doesn't like to talk about guns. Whatever the reason, he has the right to ignore. )

True ignore: scrolling past and not giving energy to discussion.
Fake ignore: constantly responding about how GameHED is aware that he is on ignore list after new posts made by me are there. (in others words hoping I see it, proving that you know I had made a new post) Then posting a screencap to "prove" that they can't see a post. Yet later talking to me.
If you ignore it, why would you go to the effort to prove it right after I make posts. It means you are noticing some activity, show enough interest in the topic to click on it, and hope that I see you in the thread which is showing you are aware of posts I make and failing to ignore the posts.
The serious posters may want to hear both sides of the story:
could the massacres be staged because only gun-free zones seem to have massacres and it doesn't make logical sense to leave them unguarded if the killers target those specific areas.

The start of this thread is an anti-american rant about how america is a dangerous society (which it is but guns are not the only facotr) but it fails to focus in on where these killings occur. (mostly unguarded areas where people can't even shoot back, and if you try to you are doing something illegal for having a weapon to defend yourself with)

I'm helping to educate them by looking at both sides of the debate because I believe if kids could fire back to save their life they might have survived. (or at least have armed retired cops in plain clothes at the school if the people are too afraid of guns to hold it themselves)
When the government needs young people to go and kill for the elites as soldiers they are happy to have killers with weapons. But when they fight to defend themselves, they are "dangerous"?
It doesn't add up.

Are you aware that no-one reads your posts in their entirety? I did my usual trick here of reading the first three lines and then replying. However I decided to quote the entire post because I enjoy shitting up threads from time to time.

[GeneraL CyberFunK]

I used to do a quick scan and allow the crazy to jump out and assault me.
This having him on ignore has been better.. although I do let my curiosity get the better of me.. similar to those people who cringe while watching a guy get kicked in the nuts on youtube. I mean.. you know what's gonna happen and you know it's going to hurt... Same deal with LizardHED... you know he's gonna be spouting shit and you know you are going to roll your eyes and wish you didn't read it.

[GameHED]

You keep saying you ignore the posts but post in them every single time they are active. So I don't believe you.
I've explained this countless times: What you say and how you act are two completely different things. LOL

A true ignore is when you actually avoid the posts instead of responding each time a new post is made that boosts the topic up.

This behavior shows you want to argue with the poster by helping to keep it active. Even if you ignore my post you clicked on the topic to find out if anyone else is posting in the debate. That means you have enough free time to see what others are responding too when trying to participate.

You see how stupid you just made yourself look by posting about GameHED? By actually mentioning me you unknowingly brought energy to it. It would have worked if you had simply not even responded or clicked. But coming into the topic shows your interest in the topic or the poster who most recently added a new post to it.

It's like free advertising everytime you say how you ignore things by posting in the very thread you can't avoid clicking. LOL

One tactic people use is to post how they have posts on ignore and post a screencap, ...but that proves you were putting energy into the response which is not truly ignoring. (ie avoiding it completely) True ignore is scrolling beyond it and not chatting. If you actually chatted about how you ignored the post it means you knew it was there and clicked on the active topic.
A true ignore would be me not looking at what goes on in thread like the phone game thread or avoiding threads with spoilers. Fake ignore is when people pretend they are not looking in the thread but post screen caps of ignore function being used.
I simply don't believe I'm being ignored because the people that keep saying it always respond only when I am posting something. You know you are unable to ignore so you feel you have to "prove" you are ignoring by going to so much effort as to post about it. That means you went into the thread, clicked to see the next new post, and spent time to respond. It's not ignoring. It's showing interest.

an example:
I asked Deef if he thought the timing of the antigun push was very suspicious (happens right after sandy hook massacre and the antigun laws were made before this massacre and timed perfectly to capitalise on the tradgedy) and he didn't respond. That is how you ignore. He kept asking me questions about whether I care if people read, I responded to his posts. That is chatting because I kept the conversation going. I answered his question but he won't answer mine. (maybe doesn't like talking about gun issues - that is understandable. Maybe he feel threatened by them or maybe a family member of neighbour or friend was shot by an armed robber or something and doesn't like to talk about guns. Whatever the reason, he has the right to ignore. )

True ignore: scrolling past and not giving energy to discussion.
Fake ignore: constantly responding about how GameHED is aware that he is on ignore list after new posts made by me are there. (in others words hoping I see it, proving that you know I had made a new post) Then posting a screencap to "prove" that they can't see a post. Yet later talking to me.
If you ignore it, why would you go to the effort to prove it right after I make posts. It means you are noticing some activity, show enough interest in the topic to click on it, and hope that I see you in the thread which is showing you are aware of posts I make and failing to ignore the posts.
The serious posters may want to hear both sides of the story:
could the massacres be staged because only gun-free zones seem to have massacres and it doesn't make logical sense to leave them unguarded if the killers target those specific areas.

The start of this thread is an anti-american rant about how america is a dangerous society (which it is but guns are not the only facotr) but it fails to focus in on where these killings occur. (mostly unguarded areas where people can't even shoot back, and if you try to you are doing something illegal for having a weapon to defend yourself with)

I'm helping to educate them by looking at both sides of the debate because I believe if kids could fire back to save their life they might have survived. (or at least have armed retired cops in plain clothes at the school if the people are too afraid of guns to hold it themselves)
When the government needs young people to go and kill for the elites as soldiers they are happy to have killers with weapons. But when they fight to defend themselves, they are "dangerous"?
It doesn't add up.

Are you aware that no-one reads your posts in their entirety? I did my usual trick here of reading the first three lines and then replying. However I decided to quote the entire post because I enjoy shitting up threads from time to time.

Whether I am aware won't change the fact that I can keep my posts long and you can do nothing about it. I will still keep them long and hard to read because I have no obligation to shorten them. I am trying to teach you a lesson.
Nobody cares if you can't take a long post because you have a tiny screen or you have 3 mins of time.
Just don't read it if you can't stand it. I told people I don't care. Loads of people like long posts but are scared that the guys who like short posts will bash them up so they don't want to cause trouble. I have to cater to people who like long posts. lol You are rude and inconsiderate.

[GameHED]

I used to do a quick scan and allow the crazy to jump out and assault me.
This having him on ignore has been better.. although I do let my curiosity get the better of me.. similar to those people who cringe while watching a guy get kicked in the nuts on youtube. I mean.. you know what's gonna happen and you know it's going to hurt... Same deal with LizardHED... you know he's gonna be spouting shit and you know you are going to roll your eyes and wish you didn't read it.

You are paranoid that I am talking about you behind your back. You reckon everyone is out to get you which is why you want to break people's fingers off. Just cool down ok? Nobody is saying that liking FF13 makes you a bad person. It is just that if you encourage squareenix to make stuff that isn't good they will continue crapping on you much like capcom with the RE series. (I hear they want to reboot it now. Personally I think they should just split it into two games: COD zombie minigame RE, and the usual RE where you have limited amount of health packs, ammo, and save spots and exploration of everything to find hidden goodies is encouraged. Killing everything is optional but possible if you conserve ammo and hit weak spots AND find all the hidden stashes of ammo AND not missing all the time, which is what survival is about. The game is meant to be scary and hard)

[GameHED]

Piers Morgan interview with Ted Nugent on more gun control. He is trying to group cops shooting criminals with guns, with "gun murder" into the stats.

the public meanwhile buys more guns to fight the government's attempt to steal shit. If politicians were not liars (claiming they won't ban things, when they fully intend to) then maybe people wouldn't panic so much with the attempts to register weapons. (registrations means the government owns it - giving them power to take it) But we are not living in that world: pollies lie and tell us what we want to hear until a more sneaky time when they think nobody is paying attention to pass stupid laws that rob the public of freedom.

After guns are given up the slaughter of innocents can begin, something the satanic 'chosen' ones have been waiting for. (chaos on the streets where it is hard to enforce law and order)

alex jones turns up the pressure:

don't let them steal shit

Larry Pratt explains why registration is opposed by gunowners.org:

registration is mostly a form of control to later confiscate guns after bans are brought in (knowing who owns them from prior registration is the first step before that move.
step 1: registration which tracks who owns guns step 2. steal the guns after they can convince the public toward a draconian total gun ban law by using the information from step 1)

[GameHED]

The history of the term 'assault weapon' explained:

piers morgan never mentions this on the interviews. If a mass shooter actually used military weapons you then have to ask who is supplying them? If they just use semiauto, the weapon is no more dangerous than what police have to catch common crooks armed with cheap weapons. So why call them 'assault weapons'? The pro-gun people need to invent terms to counter this by calling the semi-auto a 'single shot firearm' (to highlight one bullet per squeeze - a perfectly reasonable amount of bullets for someone who is not a trained veteren out to fight another trained soldier on a battlefield but a regular person who might miss a few shots here and there while defending themselves.)

This way it will make the semiauto become a regular gun to the public and not be seen as military weapon which is what the gun grabbers are deceptively promoting in interviews by accusing law abiding citizens of having too much firepower when attacked by criminals.

It's the exaggeration that is causing the confusion. True intelligent debate must first start out with both sides of the debate agreeing on certain facts. Otherwise both sides just shout over each others voices and you can't have an argument due to the facts not being accepted by both sides. Truth doesn't care about opinions, only the reality.
But you will never get true intelligent debate from mainstream media which works for the reptilians. I've noticed the illuminati are deliberately getting a lot of black people like chris rock to give their input into the issue; (even though he is just a comedian) again trying to highlight it's only a bunch of racist white guys that want guns and not everyone. lol Divide and split the nation into white guy vs black guy.
Black people need to understand they are going for everyone.
after whites have guns taken from them they will go for other things like boomerangs
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread919077/pg1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

link to article:
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/ne ... ceRecrawl/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

They took white people's ability to shoot, now abbos are going to be targeted and be told to hand in the boomerang. Black people need to smarten up. Look at the fear in chris rock's face. He looks very scared like they will kill him if he doesn't say what he was paid for. Notice how he stumbles and pauses a lot? Afraid that if he doesn't follow the script with the exact wording he might get into trouble and obama will put him away.

they have enslaved him. Drones are probably circling around him watching what he says in public.
They took oprah winfrey and brainwashed her into accepting new age religion. (rich people can't be spiritual lol) Now they are making black comedians support death of 2nd amendment. (doesn't matter if it is a sword, high powered laser you made yourself or a rifle that fires conventional bullets - it all falls under second amendment in case a evil dictator takes control of the nation and starts putting innocent people into camps and killing them. Guns is no guarantee of safety but it is better to have it then to not have it. Especially when you got people like the "bath salts" zombie, and intestines zombie that just growl when the cop fires and they continue to attack without fear of being shot. - those are real stories btw. )