This is beyond pathetic now
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Only in America would some people try to make money from that. That's why I wrote fucking America, I'm not bitching about the xbox live network, I haven't had a problem with it and if it started in America that's great. Now go for a run fatboy.mech wrote: it was in "fucking America" that the XBL network was designed and is now run you fucking twit
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I'm sure they've got plenty of proof, but nut-jobs will always find a way to explain it away.GreyWizzard wrote:Maybe I do, maybe I don't... it doesn't really matter what I think.mech wrote:Ohhhh that'd be so awesome if Grey actually thought that.
The bottom line is, you can't prove that they have actually landed someone on the moon.
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No real proof...
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In 1994, the Fortean Times had an article calling the moon landing into question. The article began, "The idea that we went to the Moon--and that we were successful in our Apollo endeavours--is so firmly embedded in the cultural lives of most people on this planet, that to voice the opinion that this might be untrue smacks of paranoia." I can't argue with that! The article goes on to claim, "In actual fact, mankind has no proof at all that we ever set foot on the Moon, other than the photographs that NASA has elected to publish." Which is simply untrue. We have the photos, the video, the audio, the testimony of all the men and women who worked on the various projects, the samples brought back, etc. The "evidence" of a conspiracy is from the photos themselves, and calling it "flimsy" gives it too much weight. For example, in the first photo he uses, the author supposedly analyzes the shadows, claiming to show that they are facing in different directions, meaning it was done with a very nearby light source. When I look at the same photo, however, I can't begin to imagine what this guy is going on about even with the arrows he has kindly inserted to point this stuff out! In several of the other photos, his claims are simply wrong--he puts in arrows to "show" how things should be, but he doesn't line them up properly.
So true. As if the 1000s of people involved could have kept quiet about a conspiracy for all this time. People LOVE leaking secrets. If you think the moon landing was a conspiracy you're even dumber than I thought. Fin.And that's about what it comes down to. There will always be people who claim a conspiracy for just about anything. Facts will be ignored, rational people will be amazed and dismayed.
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just because I said "all gov prop" doesn't mean I'm believing that, I'm just using it in an argument, as a rebuttal.
You say one side, I give the other side.
Again, not saying I believe or don't believe. It's just about questioning stuff, and not taking everything at face value.
When I first posted about the faked moon landing I was just quoting Whitest Kids.
I was going to actually suggest splitting it, you can call the OT thread "mech's inability to form his own opinions and his blind faith in the press, media and government"
You say one side, I give the other side.
Again, not saying I believe or don't believe. It's just about questioning stuff, and not taking everything at face value.
When I first posted about the faked moon landing I was just quoting Whitest Kids.
I was going to actually suggest splitting it, you can call the OT thread "mech's inability to form his own opinions and his blind faith in the press, media and government"