Nintendo E3 2011 - Nintendo's New Home Console - 'Wii U'

[Pointy Cat]

That thing having a resistive screen is the nail in the coffin, IMO. Resistive looks and feels fucking shocking after using capacitive tech in phones for so long. Being limited to single-touch input also really limits the potential too.

Oh I didn't know what was confirmed. Ewww. The DS touch screen feels so stone age after using an iPhone/pad/droid/whatever. Sigh... Nintendo.

[Vzzzbx]

Why are people even making resistive screens anymore? What the hell is going on??

[Pointy Cat]

It's a Nintendo console. I guess it has to be out of date at launch in some way.

[Cletus]

Out of date at the time of the announcement.

[Vzzzbx]

I'm not letting this go. This is retarded. I can shoot a video in the street, geotag it and immediately publish it worldwide. I can take a photo of a book and have Amazon tell me the cost in just a few seconds. I can write for weeks at a time exclusive with my finger. And here is Nintendo buying up the sort of screens you only find in old office photocopiers. Where is my Apple iBakelite? Fucking turtlenecks.

[unfnknblvbl]

Oh I didn't know what was confirmed. Ewww.

Yeah, I saw a picture of it in my Google Reader feed with a DS-type stylus being used. I can't find it now though

Vzzzbx: Resistive tech has a couple of advantages over capacitive, namely that it's pressure sensitive. I can't think of any others at the moment though, but that's the big one.

There's still time for Nintendo to fix the issues here though. That screen could be 5" (as opposed to 6.2") and still be great for gaming on. They could definitely change the screen tech to capacitive too, but I imagine Nintendo are trying to keep the costs (for them) to a minimum. I doubt they'll make either of those changes though...

I wonder what disc format they will be using?

[Pat]

Launches:
2012
Size:
Approximately 1.8 inches tall, 6.8 inches wide and 10.5 inches long.
New Controller:
The new controller incorporates a 6.2-inch, 16:9 touch screen and traditional button controls, including two analog Circle Pads. This combination removes the traditional barriers between games, players and the TV by creating a second window into the video game world. The rechargeable controller includes a Power button, Home button, +Control Pad, A/B/X/Y buttons, L/R buttons and ZL/ZR buttons. It includes a built-in accelerometer and gyroscope, rumble feature, camera, a microphone, stereo speakers, a sensor strip and a stylus.
Other Controls:
Up to four Wii Remote™ (or Wii Remote Plus) controllers can be connected at once. The new console supports all Wii™ controllers and input devices, including the Nunchuk™ controller, Classic ControllerTM, Classic Controller ProTM and Wii Balance Board™.
Media:
A single self-loading media bay will play 12-centimeter proprietary high-density optical discs for the new console, as well as 12-centimeter Wii optical discs.
Video Output:
Supports 1080p, 1080i, 720p, 480p and 480i. Compatible cables include HDMI, component, S-video and composite.
Audio Output:
Uses AV Multi Out connector. Six-channel PCM linear output through HDMI.
Storage:
The console will have internal flash memory, as well as the option to expand its memory using either an SD memory card or an external USB hard disk drive.
CPU:
IBM Power®-based multi-core microprocessor.
Other:
Four USB 2.0 connector slots are included. The new console is backward compatible with Wii games and Wii accessories.

Specs:
proprietary disc format (might rule out bluray movie playback?)
1080p via HDMI confirmed
Extenal HDD support

[unfnknblvbl]

OK, a headphone jack on the controller is a good idea. Didn't the 3D0 do this though?

[Twit]

Can I get porn on my WiiVMU?

[Vzzzbx]

The DS was a joke right out of the gate by not having an analogue stick. The company goes and invents Super Mario 64, invents 3D platforming (shut up pep), invents the fucking analogue stick (shut up megaman) and then releases a handheld console with 3D capability and a fucking D pad. A fucking D pad. Then like six months later they go "oh we're sorry, we're idiots, here, have this thing that you strap onto your thumb and scrape around the resistive touchscreen like an analogue stick" that turned out to be nothing like an analogue stick. Then fucking 80 years later capacitive touchscreens rule the universe and what does Nintendo do? Release a portable with an analogue stick and a resistive touchscreen. Then it announces a proper HD console 10 years after everyone is sick of HD and tacks a god damned resistive touchscreen onto the stupidest controller I have ever seen. Pressure sensitive my arse. Reggie Fils-Aimé, Reggie Kills-Gamé morelike. Give Edward James Olmos his skin texture back and make a proper fucking console, you fucking egg.

[unfnknblvbl]

[unfnknblvbl]

Nintendo have made more than enough money from the Wii and DS for them to take a bigger financial risk with the hardware for the WiiU (fuck I hope it gets a new name)... and it looks like they haven't. They seem to be using a binary-compatible CPU/GPU combo, which, let's face it, wouldn't cost more than a couple of dollars to push out 1080p60 content these days.

[Pat]

The DS was a joke right out of the gate by not having an analogue stick. The company goes and invents Super Mario 64, invents 3D platforming (shut up pep), invents the fucking analogue stick (shut up megaman) and then releases a handheld console with 3D capability and a fucking D pad. A fucking D pad. Then like six months later they go "oh we're sorry, we're idiots, here, have this thing that you strap onto your thumb and scrape around the resistive touchscreen like an analogue stick" that turned out to be nothing like an analogue stick. Then fucking 80 years later capacitive touchscreens rule the universe and what does Nintendo do? Release a portable with an analogue stick and a resistive touchscreen. Then it announces a proper HD console 10 years after everyone is sick of HD and tacks a god damned resistive touchscreen onto the stupidest controller I have ever seen. Pressure sensitive my arse. Reggie Fils-Aimé, Reggie Kills-Gamé morelike. Give Edward James Olmos his skin texture back and make a proper fucking console, you fucking egg.

Youre mental.

DS is one of the best pure gaming systems in history. It had the thumbstrap available from day 1. It's 100 times the gaming system an ipad/iphone will ever be.

[Vzzzbx]

piece of plastic + velcro = revolution

[Pat]

piece of plastic + velcro = revolution

[Pointy Cat]

No analogue stick was easily the worst thing about the DS. It was stupid not to include one. A good example of this is Phantasy Star Zero on DS, which is a pain to control, was the worst aspect of the game. Well if played on the 3DS the analogue stick can be used and oh man SO MUCH BETTER.

[Pat]

just a tech demo, but fuck me ....

[General Chaos]

Zelda lies. It's the game cucumber all over again.

[Pat]

Well at least this time theyve said its just a twilight princess demo with wii u effects.

[Candy Arse]

Amazing how things change. People in this thread who I would expect to be a bit more level-headed are writing this off, meanwhile I am absolutely all over this piece of kit at this stage.

That Zelda video, if Nintendo can replicate that sort of stuff for the actual game....Nintendo take my money!!!!!!

[Pointy Cat]

That Zelda demo does look good. It comes to all I really care about really - finally getting Nintendo games in HD. Now SD gaming can finally die.

[mech]

It's a prerendered video, seriously who gives a shit?

If Sony had had something like that, Pat would be all over it and ranting about how shit Sony is. Fuck off.

[Pointy Cat]

But it's not prerendered?

[Scullibundo]

I dunno, its kind of like saying Shenmue always looked as good as the Passport disc where you could actively change the light source. It's a lot different when the environment doesn't consist of an empty room and pre-programmed animations.

[Pat]

Sculli is correct. The system is apparently capable of some very nice effects as evidenced by the bird/cherry blossom/koi demo. And this zelda vid. It is using 'real time' assets but has presumably pre-baked lighting effects as a proof of concept vid. Developers have already stated its more powerful than ps3/360 - by how much is another issue - but the end result is still going to be a nice crisp image.

It's a prerendered video, seriously who gives a shit?

If Sony had had something like that, Pat would be all over it and ranting about how shit Sony is. Fuck off.

And you would be the same old charming cunt. Some things never change.