Jasper wrote:Oh fuck off GameHED!
Stop trying to justify software piracy with bullshit excuses like
"my old Super Mario World cartridge stopped working, therefore i'm allowed to steal a replacement by illegally downloading a rom".
Going by your fucked up logic...anyone who wants a replacement of a product they had purchased (and are outside of the warranty period), is able to
STEAL from any business to obtain a replacement.
The law is
CRYSTAL CLEAR! It is
NOT illegal to download an emulator, but it
IS illegal to download roms. Even if you own a physical copy of the game,
LEGALLY you are still
NOT allowed to download a rom of that game.
Wrong. Consumers can back up things they own. Don't argue with me on this. When you start trying to sell roms and make money then it's a different issue.
We as consumers have rights. When we buy things we buy the content not just the physical disc. So if the software is faulty and you already agreed to the TOS EULA before being allowed to USE the software, then it stands to reason the TOS isn't applicable to people like me who KNOWS his rights and understand reason: ie that you can't know if you want the software until after you use it first to see if it even works. If the software doesn't do what it says it supposed to do and you agreed to the TOS and the TOS makes unreasonable demands then I am not bound by that contract since it is acting dishonorably by lying about the claims it makes. Many stores sell you software with no refunds, and they force you to sign the EULA without knowing if the software is going to do the thing it says.
The legalese works on you because you agree to those laws but I go by real law. You go by what the corporation says is true without even testing to see if it aligns with what is fair to a consumer. You don't look at it from the perspective of the buyer.
Since you have no backbone and don't exercise your rights, it is assumed that you have none since you don't know what they are. This is a very amoral world we live in but I am here to give light to you the ignorant one who knows nothing about what is right and what is wrong. Nintendo cannot tell me what to do with property I already OWN. So if I say, take my nintendo cartridge back it up on a piece of software I made and store the image somewhere, there is no moral reason for them to care because I paid them for the cartridge and content on it. They got my money and I got my cartridge.
This is why not all piracy is considered immoral by more civilised people because people living in the third world countries which have had disasters and flooding and other people who through no fault of their own had housefires, and/or the company (due to human error and honest mistake didn't fullfill thier end of the contract (eg saying a game is free of bugs but not actually being free of bugs and crashing all the time - this happens to all software companies ) do not have any obligation to give new money if they had the backups of things they already bought. On a purely moral basis, you own the thing you bought. The copy exists as the copy of the thing you already bought, so consuming that copy is the same as consuming the content of the original.
We don't live in a world owned by corporations. I own ME. When you try to sell me something you give up your right to tell me what to do with the thing I own or you give my my money back. That is how its worked for thousands of years. You sell me a horse and tell me it is healthy and it suddenly dies of disease, I am coming back to get my refund. You have to fulfill your end of the bargain in the contract for me to fulfill my end. If you breach it, I get to cancel whatever I agreed to since you didn't deliver the good as described. I don't care what country you come from, what corporation you are, what king or queen you serve these are laws of God. tey were there long before your young governments came into being and are the foundation upon which all laws rest upon. That which is older is superior since all the things that rest upon it are grounded by it. Any law that is unjust can be ignored by those who follow the values God wishes.
You may be able to trick the rest of the board but not me. You may not like being challenged on this because you think your laws are more moral but you can't reason your way out of this one. If you don't like that we as consumers have rights that must be respected, then just say it: "you shouldn't have the right to copy the image". But that isn't the same as saying "I am right, you are wrong". I know I am right.
TOS and EULA have no basis in logic since you can't test the product before you agree to the terms of use and bound by them. Before you can enter contract you must be given time to consider the deal before agreeing. Read the constitution. Learn your rights and exercise them. Don't be a fool.
The reason I can morally download a nintendo rom I already own is because I already bought it. (multiple times but that's not necessary)
If you disagree that the "customer is always right" then don't bother doing business in countries that protect consumer rights. Corporations like to use legalese to scare people. But it only works on weak people who don't study the truth and look on what grounds do they claim they have power and authority. You just read the text, your brain absorbs the words, and you don't question whether what you just read is really valid and makes actual sense. Most people are stupid and irrational and just believe that what is written is applicable to them without understanding the deception being done on them. If I sold you a piece of software and I said here is the EULA and got you to agree to it before being able to test if the software works and is bug-free, would you let me keep the money you gave me even if the software was faulty and crashed and has lots of bugs? Of course not. You would ignore everything you agreed to in the EULA because you had no way of knowing if the software was working or not prior to signing the EULA. It makes no sense. Therefore it's just legalese meant to scare idiots like you. And it works because people don't exercise their rights and think they have none thanks to being dumb.
"A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad." -Shigeru Miyamoto
(Plok! anyone?) 
