Madmya wrote: ↑20 Feb 2022 08:11 am
I'll be the first to admit that I'm terrible at forming a coherent sentence, but all of the relevant information was there for anyone to figure out. Specifically, what should the federal government have done differently with respect to aged care. There were a lot of words following that question, but almost all of it was just fluff so you cannot claim to have been "thorough and actually gave information". Just saying things like they're just being reactive and too slow doesn't actually say anything when it doesn't have context. Slow regarding what? That's why I asked for specifics, because I'm not convinced you aren't just like everyone else and rolling out keywords without having any actual weight behind those words. And I'm still not convinced, because the only thing you have is that they should have stopped staff from interchanging between aged care facilities, which I just don't see as a possibility. I agree with you that the federal government has dropped the ball on aged care in general, and because of that the problems were exacerbated during the pandemic, but that's not what we're arguing here.
You admit that your question was shit.. but you then call all the points I raised about what the GOVERNMENT could have done better - you call it fluff? There was a LOT to cover.. I initially kept it as short and non-fluff like. You're Andrew Bolting right now.
Failing to be accountable for 3 main sectors (Vaccine Roll Out, Quarantine and Aged Care) is not fluff.
Delaying their response is not fluff.
Continually sending the wrong message to the public is not a fluff point.
Your question was too broad so you got a broad answer. Fuck man.. take this one on the chin.
If you actually want examples -
Morrison eventually apologised for the slow pace of the vaccine rollout.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... ne-rollout
He's on video saying it.
The roll out of vaccines plays into aged care because it meant that the ability to ensure aged care workers and residents were better protected. Various organisations have pointed out that the Federal Government failed to roll out vaccines to residents and staff and that it was noted that the States had to pick up the slack (a lot of slack) for a responsibility that was a federal one.
The 2020 outbreak in aged care in Victoria is exempt from this particular point however as the vaccine rollout had not started.
Failure to aged care -
Senate hearing finds various failure before and during pandemic.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... ate-report
In particular - failing to anticipate staff shortages and PPE shortages too. The interesting thing to note here is that with staff shortages.. not to mention an sector that is woefully underpaid.. and a government that that was failing to act upon staff shortages and what they get paid.. there was ample time to ramp up and fix staff shortages. There are aged care courses that are 12 weeks in duration that provides entry into the sector. Existing issues of shit pay and staff shortages before the pandemic just prove that the government did not move to try and rectify this even though it was presented to them that aged care is always a vulnerable sector especially with a pandemic.
I don't need to go into detail about how the Morisson government handled RATs and in turn how they affect Aged Care. Because I'm sure even you can agree that it was awful for this to be happening when it did.
madmya wrote: That's why I asked for specifics, because I'm not convinced you aren't just like everyone else and rolling out keywords without having any actual weight behind those words. And I'm still not convinced, because the only thing you have is that they should have stopped staff from interchanging between aged care facilities, which I just don't see as a possibility.
The point to consider here is that I'm not your research slave. You're not convinced and I have a house to renovate, Horizon Forbidden West to play and a business to run.. perhaps you could go and look this shit up yourself? I just looked up two such things for you above.. you probably won't like that it was from The Guardian.. but at least it's not news.com.au.
You wanted specifics.. I gave you one specific example.. staff interchanging.. one that I believed had significant impact.. you didn't like it and you feel that it wasn't possible to rectify even though it ties in with staff shortages which have been happening for years BUT could have been easily focused on by giving subsidies and providing better pay for existing staff and enticing new workers in.
I'm sorry I didn't have the time to provide more examples and signpost them to how these things are interconnected.
madmya wrote: I think we're all in awe of your wisdom to recognise that you shouldn't go to a foreign country which doesn't have the facilities of a first world country when an unknown respiratory virus began to sweep the world. You shouldn't let Scomo going to a footy game, which was within the health advice at the time, keep you up at night. It's just not worth it.
It wasn't wisdom.. it was common sense. The point was - they had far more information relating to what was happening and they chose to not take it seriously. They were too busy not wanting to upset the applecart because that's what the LNP do.. My decision to call off an event months in advance because it was the correct percentage play combined with up front and honest communication.. I actually expect my federal government to be able to handle things better than a one person business because 1. they have the knowledge/intel and 2. they have far more resources/staffing to be handle the process of it.
Scomo going to that footy game is the least of my worries.. but unlike you.. I'm not prepared to just forget all the poor decisions scotty from marketing has made. When you consider the cycle of news and how it filters into the public - his timing and his blase attitude about it was the problem. 2 days before these restrictions coming to play and he's making out his going isn't important. 2 weeks beforehand yeah - it wouldn't have mattered. I'd have been meh - whatever. But two days? Scomo continually makes bad calls in terms of how he publicly behaves. The man left to go on holiday (and most recently let his WIFE take the fall ON TV) in another country.. on the downlow too.. while the state that he is a federal member in - was on fire.
Timing. It actually matters in terms of the message you are communicating to the country and how you want your constituents to respond to it. I'll jump on him for shit he did wrong where it actually matters. I won't jump on him for pushing UP the safety mask when about to weld like people are doing atm.. I'll admit it really is on brand for him.. but again.. he's never been shown how to weld.. so I can't expect him to be perfect with it on his first go.. but he's the PM. He should be well trained about how he needs to lead by example and be present and focused.. and he's not.